From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36423 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Bjørn Mork" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sender header? Date: 25 May 2001 20:01:05 +0200 Organization: DoD Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172009 8498 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:46:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 17856 invoked by alias); 25 May 2001 18:01:13 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 17851 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 18:01:13 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (195.204.10.139) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 May 2001 18:01:13 -0000 Original-Received: (from news@localhost) by quimby.gnus.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14734 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 24 May 2001 20:00:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: c4s142h4.upc.chello.no Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 990727256 30063 62.179.170.4 (24 May 2001 18:00:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 May 2001 18:00:56 GMT User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 52 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36423 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36423 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > > On 25 May 2001, Paul Jarc wrote: > > > >> According to RFC 1036, Sender is for news more or less what Rat says > >> it should be for mail - it's used for tracking down where a message > >> entered the network. > > > > RFC 1036 has this example: > > Yes, but it also has this one: > # If a gateway program enters a mail message into the network at host > # unix.SRI.COM, the lines might read: > # > # From: John.Doe@A.CS.CMU.EDU > # Sender: network@unix.SRI.COM > > I don't think it's suggesting that network@unix.sri.com issupposed to > be a valid email address. RFC 1036 is confusing and unclear at best. It's better to look forward and see what's proposed in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-04.txt : A "sender" is the person or software (usually, but not always, the same as the poster) responsible for the operation of the posting agent or, which amounts to the same thing, for passing the article to the injecting agent. The sender is analogous to [MESSFOR]'s sender. [..] 6.2. Sender The Sender header specifies the mailbox of the entity which actually sent this article, if that entity is different from that given in the From header or if more than one address appears in the From header. This header SHOULD NOT appear in an article unless the sender is different from the author. This header is appropriate for use by automatic article posters. The content syntax makes use of syntax defined in [MESSFOR]. Sender-content = mailbox ([MESSFOR] was P. Resnick, "Internet Message Format Standard", draft-ietf-drums-msg-fmt-07.txt, March 1998, which is now published as RFC 2822) I.e. they propose changing the definition of the sender field in news to mean the same as in mail. Would make things easier IMHO. Bjørn