From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/23456 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Falkner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: some mail annoyances [renumbering] Date: 22 Jun 1999 13:29:32 -0600 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035161185 2098 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:46:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Per Bothner , ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from farabi.math.uh.edu (farabi.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.57]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10326 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by farabi.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB08081; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:32:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:32:51 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14471 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:32:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from lukla.Sun.COM (lukla.Sun.COM [192.18.98.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10194 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from centralmail1.Central.Sun.COM ([129.147.62.10]) by lukla.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28047; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: from muzzy.Central.Sun.COM (muzzy.Central.Sun.COM [129.152.74.150]) by centralmail1.Central.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id NAA10488; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:30:23 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: (from samf@localhost) by muzzy.Central.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) id NAA00684; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Original-To: Per Abrahamsen Original-Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070088 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.88) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23456 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:23456 Per Abrahamsen writes: > Then your point of view is wrong for Gnus. The point of my message > was that if can't think of your mail as news which has arrived on a > slightly different route, then Gnus isn't the right tool for you. When I first switched to Gnus, I too worried quite a bit about message numbers and compacting them. I guess it came from my mh background, where such things were easy to do. Also, I would never have dreamed of turning on total-expire. Yikes! Now I couldn't care less about the filenames of the mail messages that I'm reading (using nnml). I'm also much happier with total-expire turned on. I understand why the manual says `use with caution', but in reality, I think most people would be happier with it, if they took the time to understand it. My only current gripe is with the cached article numbers, especially when moving to a new NNTP server. In that case, I *do* move the article numbers around to occupy the lowest numbers, and rebuild the cache. I wish this were automatic. - Sam