From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60931 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: agent forgetting marks Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:02:57 +0200 Message-ID: References: <864q8utvtf.fsf@solnet.ch> <86y866i6um.fsf@solnet.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1126347021 29648 80.91.229.2 (10 Sep 2005 10:10:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m9463@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Sep 10 12:10:13 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EE2JI-0004GE-Cq for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:10:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EE2J9-00077w-00; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from nas01.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.39]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1EE2CY-00077r-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by nas01.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EE2CW-00053p-OT for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 05:03:14 -0500 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1EE2CR-0005pt-00 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:03:07 +0200 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se [217.215.27.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j8AA3cG6007745 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:03:40 +0200 Original-To: Robert Epprecht OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:21:050910:ding@gnus.org::26nSe48Fr2LlbKJK:7GT6 X-Hashcash: 1:21:050910:epprecht@solnet.ch::xfNg27ZJBnYNty7I:FcQn In-Reply-To: <86y866i6um.fsf@solnet.ch> (Robert Epprecht's message of "Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:44:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=failed version=3.0.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.84, clamav-milter version 0.84e on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60931 Archived-At: Robert Epprecht writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> Robert Epprecht writes: > >>> I read articles *un*plugged, mark some with '!' or '?' which seems >>> to work fine. But if I plug Gnus now ('Jj') and do 'g' all the articles >>> which I have read under the agent are shown again as unread. It's very >>> annoing... Gnus does *not* show the unseen mark '.' on these messages, >>> so it seems to know that I have seen them at least. All the '!' and '?' >>> marks have disappeared, though... >>> >>> BTW: If I read (or mark) articles in the *plugged* state everything >>> works fine and read or marked articles stay read/marked regardless >>> the online/offline status. > >> >> Perhaps >> >> (setq gnus-agent-synchronize-flags t) >> >> helps? > > Yes, indeed, this seems to solve the problem. > > Was there a recent change in Gnus that requires me to set this variable > now, which I never had to do before? I think so, the variable default has been flipping between nil and ask a few times. Now I think we should try to make the default t. > I usually do *not* read news online, but always use the agent. Is it > normal Gnus behaviour that I have to set gnus-agent-synchronize-flags > for that to work? Or could it still be a sign that something went wrong, > when I moved my Gnus news data from one system to the other? No, it is the normal behavior, although I agree it is sub-optimal. Making the default t is probably better. I changed the default to t in No Gnus and on the 5.10 branch.