From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59685 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: *nntp-log* differences between M-g and g Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:50:34 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107129170 15736 80.91.229.6 (30 Jan 2005 23:52:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:52:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org, Mark Plaksin Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8225@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jan 31 00:52:43 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CvOrz-00057E-00 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:52:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CvOqe-0006Vn-00; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:51:20 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CvOqX-0006Vh-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:51:13 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CvOqQ-0006gt-4b for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 17:51:06 -0600 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CvOqK-0005BO-00 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:51:00 +0100 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se [217.215.27.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j0UNopl5022900 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:50:52 +0100 Original-To: Katsumi Yamaoka OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:21:050130:ding@gnus.org::Z44t/vk2Y6mpeuXA:4JVI X-Hashcash: 1:21:050130:yamaoka@jpl.org::56oJ8CXP8vei6WPO:4ZTJ X-Hashcash: 1:21:050130:happy@mcplaksin.org::YhHmrfTcrsHhRso5:ES8z In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:28:25 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/691/Sat Jan 29 15:58:52 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59685 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59685 Katsumi Yamaoka writes: >>>>>> In Mark Plaksin wrote: > >> What's the difference between g in the Group buffer and M-g? I know that g >> will check all groups at the current level and M-g only checks the current >> group, but if I set nntp-record-commands to t *nntp-log* shows different >> commands depending on which keys I hit: > >> M-g: >> 20050130T123715.889 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.sources > >> g: >> 20050130T123735.896 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.sources >> 20050130T123736.181 news.gmane.org LIST ACTIVE gmane.emacs.sources >> 20050130T123736.317 news.gmane.org GROUP gmane.emacs.sources > > It is natural if the `nntp-marks-is-evil' variable is nil (which > is the default). This feature is described briefly in the > GNUS-NEWS file as follows: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > ** The nntp back end store article marks in `~/News/marks'. > > The directory can be changed using the (customizable) variable > `nntp-marks-directory', and marks can be disabled using the (back > end) variable `nntp-marks-is-evil'. The advantage of this is that > you can copy `~/News/marks' (using rsync, scp or whatever) to another > Gnus installation, and it will realize what articles you have read > and marked. The data in `~/News/marks' has priority over the same > data in `~/.newsrc.eld'. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Why exactly does g have to issue two GROUP commands for the same group? And should 'g' really need to mess with the marks, except for extending the active range? Doesn't GROUP give Gnus enough information to do that? My NNTP juju is weak though.