From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49245 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus 5.10? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:41 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <848yy2azri.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042618156 18516 80.91.224.249 (15 Jan 2003 08:09:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Yibr-0004oL-00 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:15 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18Yicd-0000pN-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:10:03 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:10:58 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA07490 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 02:10:43 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 79304 invoked by alias); 15 Jan 2003 08:09:44 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 79299 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2003 08:09:43 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 15 Jan 2003 08:09:43 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0F89fRr002775 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:09:42 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.1 0:030115:ding@gnus.org:496e86ce6720b272 X-Hashcash: 0:030115:ding@gnus.org:496e86ce6720b272 In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:52:32 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090013 (Oort Gnus v0.13) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: $uE40g26bSBz:7_i5d,,_~>1,7\~848A:jNZ5WYBRjD@MurE}fc-lA3d@Y}ffA2Lo)W2j-/ |tx$A=HgsJ#kX5+Z%vk=?i>2^a=bVAj|Jd]^_xXbWcd6+I=\bHq{?'7-k%zp'p writes: >>> - Integration of message-utils.el (Change subject, stripping "(was: >>> ...)", announced cross-post, ...) >> >> ** Features from third party message-utils.el added to message.el. >> >> Message now asks if you wish to remove "(was: )" from >> subject lines (see `message-subject-trailing-was-query'). C-c M-m and >> C-c M-f inserts markers indicating included text. C-c C-f a adds a >> X-No-Archive: header. Improved crosspost follow behaviour with >> `message-cross-post-*'. > > I'd mention `C-c C-f x', maybe... > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > --- GNUS-NEWS.~6.38.~ Mon Jan 13 22:56:32 2003 > +++ GNUS-NEWS Tue Jan 14 20:45:00 2003 > @@ -28,8 +28,9 @@ > Message now asks if you wish to remove "(was: )" from > subject lines (see `message-subject-trailing-was-query'). C-c M-m and > C-c M-f inserts markers indicating included text. C-c C-f a adds a > -X-No-Archive: header. Improved crosspost follow behaviour with > -`message-cross-post-*'. > +X-No-Archive: header. C-c C-f x inserts appropriate headers and a > +note in the body for cross-postings and followups (see the variables > +`message-cross-post-*'). > > ** References and X-Draft-Headers are no longer generated when you > start composing messages. > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Added, thanks. >>> Suggestion: >>> - Message buffer: >>> File|Buffers|Edit|Field|Message|Attachment|Security|[Emacs]|Help >>> - Summary buffer: >>> File|Buffers|Gnus|Group|Post|Thread|Article|Score|[Emacs]|Help > [...] >>> Opinions? >> >> Hmm, yes. I don't think we should add more menus though, even today I >> have to resize my emacs window to see all menus. Perhaps if the W3 >> approach is used. > > ACK, I would not suggest to add additional menus unless we take the w3 > approach. But I agree that a redesign of the menus would probably be a good idea. As I rarely use the menus, I don't know how to improve them though. > Oops, I meant `gnus-parameters' (not `gnus-group-parameters'), which > is new in Oort: > > 2001-02-23 17:00:00 ShengHuo ZHU > [...] * gnus.el (gnus-parameters): New variable. > > I think it should be mentioned in GNUS-NEWS because it allows to move > (some) configuration stuff from ~/.newsrc.eld to ~/.gnus.el, which is > more human readable. Yup. ** The new variable `gnus-parameters' can be used to set group parameters. Earlier this was done only via `G p' (or `G c'), which stored the parameters in ~/.newsrc.eld, but via this variable you can enjoy the powers of customize, and simplified backups since you set the variable in ~/.emacs instead of ~/.newsrc.eld. The variable maps regular expressions matching group names to group parameters, a'la: (setq gnus-parameters '(("mail\\..*" (gnus-show-threads nil) (gnus-use-scoring nil)) ("^nnimap:\\(foo.bar\\)$" (to-group . "\\1"))))