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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: naive charset question
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:07:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilu3cu4akpy.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tx1y9bxdvov.fsf@raeburn.org> (Ken Raeburn's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:42:08 -0400")

Ken Raeburn <raeburn@raeburn.org> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>>>   (standard-display-european 1)
>> Yup.  Should Gnus make an effort to work in this case?
>
>> status.  Perhaps Gnus should require non-unibyte Emacs?  But you sort
>> of get what you asked for if you disable multibyte -- you don't get
>> any multibytes, even in Gnus.  Perhaps Gnus could fail more gracefully
>> though.  Hm.
>
> While standard-display-european may make unibyte the default, it
> doesn't seem to actually disable multibyte support.  I can run
>
>         emacs -q --unibyte --eval '(standard-display-european 1)'
>
> and the HELLO file still displays with some Asian, Cyrillic, Hebrew
> and other characters, and enable-multibyte-characters still winds up
> set to t in the help buffer.

C-h h overrides the default multibyte setting.  Message in Gnus do
not.  By the code this looks quite intentional (see `mm-emacs-mule',
`mm-enable-multibyte').  So if you disable multibyte, Gnus becomes
unibyte and always uses the preferred coding system.  This seems like
a good You Get What You Asked For approach, but perhaps a warning is
in order?  Opinions?

If you want to re-enable multibyte for message, it is possible to frob
default-enable-multibyte-characters when sending the message and it
will work.  Unfortunately it is not enough to re-enable multibyte in
the message buffer alone, the code uses the global default value.

The warning could thus offer to re-enable multibyte temporarily when
sending the message.




      parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-27 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-21  3:02 Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21  4:47 ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21  8:57   ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-21  9:17     ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-21 11:42       ` Henrik Enberg
2002-07-21 13:38         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-07-21 21:41     ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21 22:31       ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-21 22:42         ` Henrik Enberg
2002-07-26 19:26         ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-27 15:42           ` Ken Raeburn
2002-07-27 20:50             ` Simon Josefsson
2002-07-27 22:07             ` Simon Josefsson [this message]

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