From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58887 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: Gnus issues Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:46:14 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097794028 7410 80.91.229.6 (14 Oct 2004 22:47:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:47:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7425@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 15 00:47:01 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIENA-0006kr-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:47:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIEMs-0007eu-00; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:46:43 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIEMo-0007ep-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:46:38 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CIEMm-0004n6-BW for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:46:36 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062C73A00B1 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:46:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIEMl-0000tY-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:46:35 +0200 Original-Received: from c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se ([217.215.27.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:46:35 +0200 Original-Received: from jas by c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:46:35 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XBsiNdDqzebx7AvfW8KQDePJ89g= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58887 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:4161 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58887 Dave Love writes: > It seems it still uses nnheader-accept-process-output, which it > shouldn't. A reasonable solution to that, which I should probably > have used elsewhere before, is to compile it away. nnheader could > just be required at compile time if nnheader-accept-process-output is > made a defsubst (with a comment about why). n-a-p-o uses a variable, nnheader-read-timeout, so if it is a defsubst, wouldn't either the user lose the ability to customize the variable, or that nnheader.el is loaded for the variable? Btw, I should installed a fix to make pop3.el not depend on nnheader. I copied the nnheader code, which may be bad, though. OTOH, I'm not sure why we bother. The entire n-a-p-o stuff seem to be workaround for a problem on non-unix platforms. Wouldn't it be better if the people using those platforms fix accept-process-output to do the right thing, instead of messing up the lisp code? I would support using accept-process-output directly in pop3.el.