From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/48644 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Concerning marks and the back end. Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:45:28 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <86fzsc4ii2.fsf@asfast.com> <84k7hnjxqi.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> <86y9638l7i.fsf@asfast.com> <86ptrfc6oy.fsf@asfast.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1041562020 3866 80.91.224.249 (3 Jan 2003 02:47:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18UHrP-00010E-00 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2003 03:46:59 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18UHqJ-000685-00; Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:45:51 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:46:44 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26784 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:46:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 26887 invoked by alias); 3 Jan 2003 02:45:34 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 26882 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2003 02:45:33 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 3 Jan 2003 02:45:33 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h032jSRr020957 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 3 Jan 2003 03:45:29 +0100 Original-To: Lloyd Zusman Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.1 0:030103:ljz@asfast.com:68daa2f1b6126812 X-Hashcash: 0:030103:ljz@asfast.com:68daa2f1b6126812 X-Payment: hashcash 1.1 0:030103:ding@gnus.org:0264d78549657d34 X-Hashcash: 0:030103:ding@gnus.org:0264d78549657d34 In-Reply-To: <86ptrfc6oy.fsf@asfast.com> (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:23:25 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:48644 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:48644 Lloyd Zusman writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Lloyd Zusman writes: >> >>> I'm talking about the case where all messages are already marked as >>> read, and I want to enter the group. If there is a several-thousand >>> message backlog of already-read messages in that group, it takes a huge >>> amount of time to construct the summary buffer. For example, one such >>> group has 5670 old messages as of this posting. >>> >>> Not fetching headers for most of this several-thousand message backlog >>> would speed things up immensely. >> >> If you only ask for the, say, three last articles, you should only >> get the article headers for (approx.) the last three articles. > > Well, I guess you're talking about my typing something like ... > > 5 0 > > ... when pointing to the group in the Groups buffer to see only that > last (approx.) 50 unread articles. I had forgotten about that and it > indeed works for me. So for the time being, this is a big help. > > Nonetheless, I'm wondering if there's a way to mark articles in such a > way that these marks are stored in the .marks file (instead of the back > end), so that articles marked in this way will never be queried from the > back end unless some special command is typed. > > It seems like that would be a nice feature. Maybe you can use this approach to accomplish something similar: set the group parameter "display" (G c) to a value that makes group entering fast (e.g. 500). If you ever want to see older articles, enter the group with C-u SPC. If you want to keep around a specific article even after falls outside of the 500 limit, press ! on it.