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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 19:23:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilu65kxa54l.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uoeyp62cy.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (Oliver Scholz's message of "Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:36:45 +0200")

Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de> writes:

> In the future, when UTF-8 will be the default in Mail and News, this
> shouldn't be a problem anymore. People who read mailing lists about
> classical Greek, will make sure that they have a font containing
> “Greek Extended”; the regulars of alt.fan.tolkien (whatever) will make
> sure that they can display Tengwar, Star Trek fans will use fonts
> including Klingon etc. etc.

Wasn't the Klingon proposal for Unicode rejected?  Tengwar has been a
proposal for ten years, or so, and nothing has happend, as far as I
know.

> I really hope for a future (however remote it may be), where I can be
> sure that every text file I find on a computer is either ASCII, UTF-8
> or UTF-16.

UTF-16?  It's not even a well define encoding scheme, two files may
contain the exact same Unicode code points, but may differ in a binary
comparison, due to byte ordering.  And concatenating two UTF-16
strings from different sources requires knowledge about the encoding.
And surrogate pairs complicate matters as well.

> When we'll look back then, we will regard this whole ISO 8859-soup
> as something as strange and weird as EBDIC.

I wish I could be that optimistic.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-16 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-14 15:48 Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 22:39 ` Frank Schmitt
2003-08-15 18:22   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 23:01 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 13:50   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-15 16:48     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 18:10       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  0:23         ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16  9:48           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 13:01             ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16 15:36               ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 17:14                 ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-16 19:29                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-19 14:54                   ` Miles Bader
2003-08-20 15:24                     ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-21  0:20                       ` Miles Bader
2003-08-16 17:23                 ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2003-08-16 19:18                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 22:24                     ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-17 12:30                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-17 16:40                         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18  2:20                           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18 15:58                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-18  2:16                       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18  2:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-28 13:38                     ` Jens Müller
2003-08-28 13:35                   ` Jens Müller
2003-08-17  0:57                 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-17 17:24                   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-17 18:21                     ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-15 18:24   ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-16  0:35     ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-14 23:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-15 17:00   ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16  7:43     ` Ivan Boldyrev
2003-08-17 17:27       ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18  6:01     ` Steinar Bang

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