From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Gnus: UTF-8 and compatibility with other MUAs
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 19:23:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilu65kxa54l.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uoeyp62cy.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (Oliver Scholz's message of "Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:36:45 +0200")
Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de> writes:
> In the future, when UTF-8 will be the default in Mail and News, this
> shouldn't be a problem anymore. People who read mailing lists about
> classical Greek, will make sure that they have a font containing
> “Greek Extended”; the regulars of alt.fan.tolkien (whatever) will make
> sure that they can display Tengwar, Star Trek fans will use fonts
> including Klingon etc. etc.
Wasn't the Klingon proposal for Unicode rejected? Tengwar has been a
proposal for ten years, or so, and nothing has happend, as far as I
know.
> I really hope for a future (however remote it may be), where I can be
> sure that every text file I find on a computer is either ASCII, UTF-8
> or UTF-16.
UTF-16? It's not even a well define encoding scheme, two files may
contain the exact same Unicode code points, but may differ in a binary
comparison, due to byte ordering. And concatenating two UTF-16
strings from different sources requires knowledge about the encoding.
And surrogate pairs complicate matters as well.
> When we'll look back then, we will regard this whole ISO 8859-soup
> as something as strange and weird as EBDIC.
I wish I could be that optimistic.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-08-16 17:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-08-14 15:48 Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 22:39 ` Frank Schmitt
2003-08-15 18:22 ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-14 23:01 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 13:50 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-15 16:48 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-15 18:10 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 0:23 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16 9:48 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 13:01 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-16 15:36 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 17:14 ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-16 19:29 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-19 14:54 ` Miles Bader
2003-08-20 15:24 ` Reiner Steib
2003-08-21 0:20 ` Miles Bader
2003-08-16 17:23 ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2003-08-16 19:18 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 22:24 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-17 12:30 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-17 16:40 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18 2:20 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18 15:58 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-08-18 2:16 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-18 2:09 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-08-28 13:38 ` Jens Müller
2003-08-28 13:35 ` Jens Müller
2003-08-17 0:57 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-17 17:24 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-17 18:21 ` Matthias Andree
2003-08-15 18:24 ` Xavier Maillard
2003-08-16 0:35 ` Jesper Harder
2003-08-14 23:05 ` Simon Josefsson
2003-08-15 17:00 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-16 7:43 ` Ivan Boldyrev
2003-08-17 17:27 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-08-18 6:01 ` Steinar Bang
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