From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55355 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: automatic Agentizing of servers (was: Summary buffer Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:00:26 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nn0aleo5u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <4nd6bhhf0j.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <877k0fwc8i.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87y8sv2smn.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87u13jxmzg.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1072738848 23057 80.91.224.253 (29 Dec 2003 23:00:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3895@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 30 00:00:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ab6NR-0004VD-00 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:00:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ab6NF-0003IY-00; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:00:33 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Ab6NA-0003IT-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:00:28 -0600 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C70C3A0047 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:00:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBTN0RAU005435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:00:27 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:031229:ding@gnus.org:37b3c3e174e62770 In-Reply-To: <87u13jxmzg.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 29 Dec 2003 23:44:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55355 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55355 Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> Simon Josefsson : > >> Uhm, but what would you expect to happen? The knowledge about which >> servers are agentized and which are not is stored in >> ~/News/agent/lib/servers, so if you remove that file, Gnus will >> auto-agentize your servers. > > Ah, OK. Right now it only contains the text nil, and no servers were > agentized when I started Gnus. > > Can I delete everything in the ~/News/agent/ directory, except this > file? Yes. You can delete that file too, of course, but then some servers will be auto-agentized when you restart. >> The point of the patch is that auto-agentification only happens once >> (unless you modify ~/News/agent/ manually). I think if a user >> remove ~/News/agent she wishes to start afresh, and >> auto-agentification is useful in that case. > >> What do you think? Can you suggest/describe a better logic that >> does what you want? > > Well, for me auto-agentizing is unexpected behaviour, and I wouldn't > wish it ever to occur. > > I want to agentize servers when I say J a in the *Server* buffer, > and only then. Then don't delete ~/News/agent/lib/servers and remove the auto-agentized servers. :-) I guess this could be customizable. Cvs update again and customize `gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods' to an empty list. Then you can wipe out ~/News/agent/ and nothing will be auto-agentized. I have added this to the manual: `gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods' If you have never used the Agent before (or more technically, if `~/News/agent/lib/servers' does not exist), Gnus will automatically agentize a few servers for you. This variable control which backends should be auto-agentized. It is typically only useful to agentize remote backends. The auto-agentizing has the same effect as running `J a' on the servers (see *note Server Agent Commands::). If the file exist, you must manage the servers manually by adding or removing them, this variable is only applicable the first time you start Gnus. The default is `(nntp nnimap)'.