From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59264 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Abbreviating modeline items related to Gnus Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:31:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101231748 18044 80.91.229.6 (23 Nov 2004 17:42:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7804=ding+2Daccount=gmane.org@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Nov 23 18:42:13 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWeg8-0002pO-00 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:42:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CWeg8-0003LP-02 for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:42:12 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CWeWF-0003L3-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:31:59 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CWeWA-0005MX-HP for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:31:54 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A208E3A0246 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:31:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CWeW7-0002oF-00 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:31:51 +0100 Original-Received: from c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se ([217.215.27.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:31:51 +0100 Original-Received: from jas by c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 2004 18:31:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se OpenPGP: id=0xB565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt X-Hashcash: 1:23:041123:gmane.emacs.gnus.general::RFK544yZWgHJtdfB:0000000000000000000000000000000000000SScS User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3bdDuV3xqz5gnD+kJjIwWnyqyv8= Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59264 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59264 Nelson Ferreira writes: > "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: > > Simon> Nelson Ferreira writes: > >> I am also attaching a patch to allow customizing of all Gnus > >> related major and minor modes for any interested. > > Simon> Why is this useful? It seems confusing to make mode names > Simon> customizable. Would the same rationale also argue for > Simon> making "Fundamental" and "Text" customizable? > > Yes it would. And some are. apropos for mode-line-string (in > retrospect I should probably followed that convention). > > I find it useful. If there are takers, cool. If you don't feel it > belongs in Gnus I don't mind maintaining it in my private Gnus. I don't have a strong opinion. Others? Using mode-line-string seem better, though. Perhaps this could be discussed more generally, on emacs-devel? It seems define-derived-mode could define the variable MODE-mode-line-string that default to the NAME parameter. That would be cleaner, and would have the same as your patch for several modes.