From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52876 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Crypto key bindings considered harmful Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:01:48 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87fzn0eexx.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054072820 23374 80.91.224.249 (27 May 2003 22:00:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1420@lists.math.uh.edu Wed May 28 00:00:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19KmUF-00064O-00 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 00:00:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KmWB-0000Fi-00; Tue, 27 May 2003 17:02:03 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19KmW6-0000Fd-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 27 May 2003 17:01:58 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 95947 invoked by alias); 27 May 2003 22:01:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 95942 invoked from network); 27 May 2003 22:01:57 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 27 May 2003 22:01:57 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RM1mB4020540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 00:01:48 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030527:ding@gnus.org:abf5b424b4b33f4c X-Hashcash: 0:030527:ding@gnus.org:abf5b424b4b33f4c In-Reply-To: <87fzn0eexx.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (Florian Weimer's message of "Tue, 27 May 2003 14:45:14 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52876 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52876 Florian Weimer writes: > Key sequences such as 'C-c C-m c' are a *very* bad idea. Guess > why. 8-/ Right. How about C-c q *? Or C-RET *? The latter is shorter. > The crypto support has more serious usability problems (e.g. if the > '#secure' tag is not at the beginning of the message, it is ignored > without warning *sigh*). Is anybody looking at such issues? Oops. > I plan to write a general check list to evaluate crypto-enabled mail > clients, but I can't promise anything right now (too much other > tasks). This would be quite useful.