From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39103 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Changed criteria for deciding if articles have been read? Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 19:19:02 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174864 26093 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:34:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lloyd Zusman , ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 18849 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 17:19:50 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 17:19:50 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15oTCP-0001y4-00; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:19:17 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 02 Oct 2001 12:18:55 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25415 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:18:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 18835 invoked by alias); 2 Oct 2001 17:18:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18830 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 17:18:56 -0000 Original-Received: from dolk.extundo.com (195.42.214.242) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 17:18:56 -0000 Original-Received: from barbar.josefsson.org (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f92HIw0r020464; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 19:18:59 +0200 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2001 18:05:59 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39103 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39103 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro=DFjohann) writes: > Lloyd Zusman writes: > >> But in any case, given what I did with the .marks files to take care >> of my problem, I don't believe that we need anything besides that to >> help people in their transitions through the recent versions of Oort. >>=20 >> Or should there still be something else? > > FWIW, I didn't have to do anything at all. Just upgraded my Gnus. Lloyd's analysis is correct, but he points a potential problem: If you use a Gnus version with .mrk/.marks, then downgrade Gnus to a older version and read alot of mail, and then upgrade Gnus again, you will lose those marks added when you used the old Gnus. That is not nice. But I wonder if up-down-up-grading isn't already considered harmful. What happens if you downgrade Gnus, adds some articles to a nnfolder, then upgrades to a Gnus that uses NOV nnfolders for instance? There might be other examples as well. I remember many times when starting old Emacsen and starting Gnus 5.3 (or something) which completely destroyed my .newsrc.eld beyond repair.. (E.g the topics structure was lost, I think.)