From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60171 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ngnus and encrypted UTF-8 mails Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:09:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r7hblp4f.fsf@echidna.jochen.org> <874qe3hnv2.fsf@echidna.jochen.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113858626 31610 80.91.229.2 (18 Apr 2005 21:10:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8698@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Apr 18 23:10:23 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DNdUk-0008BX-96 for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:09:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DNdVu-0007tm-00; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:10:38 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DNdVl-0007te-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:10:29 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DNdVj-0003oa-R1 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:10:28 -0500 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net ([217.13.230.178] helo=yxa.extundo.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DNdVf-0004vi-00 for ; Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:10:23 +0200 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se [217.215.27.65]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j3ILA6Np029619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:10:07 +0200 Original-To: Jochen Hein OpenPGP: id=B565716F; url=http://josefsson.org/key.txt Blog: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jas4711/ X-Hashcash: 1:21:050418:ding@gnus.org::2g0WDe7dadeVS8j7:5Gs X-Hashcash: 1:21:050418:jochen@jochen.org::HiSjGAfTHdhrNgN8:4HcA In-Reply-To: <874qe3hnv2.fsf@echidna.jochen.org> (Jochen Hein's message of "Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:43:45 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on yxa-iv X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on yxa.extundo.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60171 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60171 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jochen Hein writes: > [Do you have a valid GnuPG key? All I find is expired keys] It should be on various key servers. Otherwise, look at my OpenPGP: header for the URL to my key. If you use a recent Gnus, you should be able to click on the URL and the key will be retrieved and imported. >> I'm not sure what "pgp-mail sencrypt in my BBDB address book" implies? > > This tells Gnus to encrypt outgoing mail to that recipient. And > sencrypt works ok with older Gnus versions (except umlauts), but > encrypt doesn't. How does it achieve this? Does it only insert the appropriate MML tags, and nothing else? >> Vanilla PGP or PGP/MIME?=20=20 > > This mail should be in Vanilla PGP, as the mails I have problems with. In general, how do your receivers expect non-ASCII vanilla PGP to look like? QP processing before, after, or before+after? Or something else? I'm not aware of any agreed on standard for this. >> Vanilla PGP >> works badly with non-ASCII, so it is difficult to make it work >> properly (although we should make a best effort). Can you quote the >> *mail* buffer (with MML tags) > > No MML tags. I meant the *message* buffer. >> and then the contents of a C-u C-c C-m >> P? That wasn't PGP signed... did you manually change the MML tag > | < # p a r t encrypt=3Dpgp> ? Please keep it as is, so I see exactly how the entire message looks like. > Umlaut test line > =E4 ae > =F6 oe=20 > =FC ue > =DF sz > =C4 Ae > =D6 Oe > =DC Ue I'm signing this post, so you can see how it looks like for me. Perhaps the mailing list software will destroy the signature though... I recall it did that before. > The problem might be that I use UTF-8 as my default character > encoding. The recipients still use iso-8859-15. One ngnus gets > released, I might change the recieving systems to a newer gnus. The outgoing messages should still be encoded properly. I'm using UTF-8 as the default character set as well, but as you can see it downgrades to ISO-8859-1 for this messages since that is more widely used. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iQC1AwUBQmQiJO2iHpS1ZXFvAQJUYwUAs1WmJhPEssW0Pgc6jDqvb5hw7BBMj34x U3wBbo2nbWJ32Qi4C59J98pc27OhXgNEcEIVSzvsStolHt+BuCNKXcwfgv1LVadD xOzEQhzqvVz3OjVj3miFwR5+IF4qhbmMXKgb/lQ8fZFBbrEp+0vSHB442YlF17mg xG1AeidWQdP8zbNl7u9nbNyM10LUopMAzb2TjKp2QzgobtAUcrp6Sw=3D=3D =3DhYIB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----