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Jesper Harder <harder@ifa.au.dk> writes:

> Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com> writes:
>
>> I'd like to propose this small change to message.el, useful for
>> those of us who do not use a signature separator or who use one that
>> is a little different.
>>
>> +(defcustom message-signature-inserted-separator "-- \n" 
>> +  "The string that is inserted before the signature to separate it from
>> +the message body."
>
> Auch!  I think this is evil, to be honest.  Some things are not meant
> to be customized ... such as "Re:" or "-- ".

FWIW, I agree.  The signature separator is '-- \n', so it can be
recognized reliably.  Users can finish their messages in other ways,
and they can use 'Sv:' instead of 'Re:' in Subject:, but that doesn't
make it the right thing.  I think it is simple enough to add
non-standard signatures ("body" posting styles? hooks?), so that we
don't need to make the real signature delimiter customizable.

Hm.  However, it would have been kind of seasonable appropriate to
make both '-- \n' and 'Re:' customizable yesterday.