Use MAPI to send mail?

Use MAPI to send mail?

[Kai Grossjohann]

I vaguely remember that somebody talked about GNU MAPI and mapi.el or
somesuch.  I googled a bit but all I found sounded as it if invoked
Gnus on mailto URLs.

What I need is a way to send mail without SMTP, but using the Exchange
thing instead.  Does this exist?

Kai

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Christoph Conrad]

Hi Kai,

    > I vaguely remember that somebody talked about GNU MAPI and
    > mapi.el or somesuch. I googled a bit but all I found sounded as
    > it if invoked Gnus on mailto URLs.

Maybe i was that person, see: <http://makeashorterlink.com/?O37324E66>

Herzliche Grüße,
  Christoph
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einem Haufen Scheiße." (Franziska van Almsick)

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Kai Grossjohann]

Christoph Conrad <christoph.conrad@gmx.de> writes:

>     > I vaguely remember that somebody talked about GNU MAPI and
>     > mapi.el or somesuch. I googled a bit but all I found sounded as
>     > it if invoked Gnus on mailto URLs.
>
> Maybe i was that person, see: <http://makeashorterlink.com/?O37324E66>

Thanks!  So you don't know which one works, either?  Maybe Marcus
knows, I'll ask him...

Kai

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Marcus Frings]

* Kai Grossjohann <kai@emptydomain.de> wrote:

> Thanks!  So you don't know which one works, either?  Maybe Marcus
> knows, I'll ask him...

Well, I'm still here and read this list but I suggest we should switch
over to mail exchange for we could write in German then and post our
solution (if we find an appropriate one) here.

Regards,
Marcus
-- 
"Two, Five, Zero, Zero, Zero
Jihad"

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com>:

> Well, I'm still here and read this list but I suggest we should
> switch over to mail exchange for we could write in German then and
> post our solution (if we find an appropriate one) here.

I assume you didn't find an appropriate solution?

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Marcus Frings]

* Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:
>>>>>> Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com>:

>> Well, I'm still here and read this list but I suggest we should
>> switch over to mail exchange for we could write in German then and
>> post our solution (if we find an appropriate one) here.

> I assume you didn't find an appropriate solution?

Yes, unfortunately this is correct. We (Kai and myself) had some private
mail exchanges but we haven't found a solution yet. Hrmpf! :-(

Regards,
Marcus
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Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com>:

> Yes, unfortunately this is correct. We (Kai and myself) had some
> private mail exchanges but we haven't found a solution yet. Hrmpf! 
> :-(

The exchange server at work allows IMAP and POP3, but it uses an
authentication method not supported by Gnus (or Eudora).  I can't
remember offhand what it is.

There's also a live SMTP server, but it refuses relaying for
everything.

I've been thinking about investigating if there is support for this
authentication method in Gnus, and if the same (or a different)
authentication method can be used when sending mail with SMTP.  But
I've never gotten around to it.

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Simon Josefsson]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com>:
>
>> Yes, unfortunately this is correct. We (Kai and myself) had some
>> private mail exchanges but we haven't found a solution yet. Hrmpf! 
>> :-(
>
> The exchange server at work allows IMAP and POP3, but it uses an
> authentication method not supported by Gnus (or Eudora).  I can't
> remember offhand what it is.

NTLM?  No Gnus will hopefully support it, I think the copyright
situation for the SASL Elisp package has been taken care of now.

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>:

> NTLM?  No Gnus will hopefully support it, I think the copyright
> situation for the SASL Elisp package has been taken care of now.

Kewl.  Will this authentication method work for both IMAP and SMTP?

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Simon Josefsson]

Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>:
>
>> NTLM?  No Gnus will hopefully support it, I think the copyright
>> situation for the SASL Elisp package has been taken care of now.
>
> Kewl.  Will this authentication method work for both IMAP and SMTP?

That's the intention, although I have only written the IMAP part so far.

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Marcus Frings]

* Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> wrote:
>>>>>> Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com>:

>> Yes, unfortunately this is correct. We (Kai and myself) had some
>> private mail exchanges but we haven't found a solution yet. Hrmpf! 
>> :-(

> The exchange server at work allows IMAP and POP3, but it uses an
> authentication method not supported by Gnus (or Eudora).  I can't
> remember offhand what it is.
> There's also a live SMTP server, but it refuses relaying for
> everything.

My situation is similar: I can access the Exchange server by IMAP, thus
I'm able to read the mails with Gnus. I can also send mails by SMTP (via
the Exchange server) but only for corporate mail addresses (i.e. people
in our house or people in our corporate WAN); the Exchange server
doesn't act as an SMTP relay for external addresses which means I have
to send those mails by using Outlook again. :-(

> I've been thinking about investigating if there is support for this
> authentication method in Gnus, and if the same (or a different)
> authentication method can be used when sending mail with SMTP.  But
> I've never gotten around to it.

Same here. We really need full MS Exchange support for Gnus.

Regards,
Marcus
-- 
"Two, Five, Zero, Zero, Zero
Jihad"

Re: Use MAPI to send mail?

[Marcus Frings]

* Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> wrote:
> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>>>>>>> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>:

>>> NTLM?  No Gnus will hopefully support it, I think the copyright
>>> situation for the SASL Elisp package has been taken care of now.

>> Kewl.  Will this authentication method work for both IMAP and SMTP?

> That's the intention, although I have only written the IMAP part so far.

Great news! I'm really looking forward to see this feature enabled!

Regards,
Marcus
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