* status of smtp authentication?
@ 2004-11-25 1:30 Bill White
2004-11-25 2:14 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Bill White @ 2004-11-25 1:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
What's the current status of smtp authentication in cvs gnus? My
employer has recently instituted authentication and I haven't been
able to get cvs gnus to do it.
Last I heard (a few months ago), a file needed to be patched and other
gyrations needed to be performed to handle authentication.
Thanks -
bw
--
Bill White . billw@mchsi.com . http://members.wri.com/billw
"No, ma'am, we're musicians."
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 1:30 status of smtp authentication? Bill White
@ 2004-11-25 2:14 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-11-25 3:00 ` Bill White
2004-11-25 5:01 ` Bill White
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2004-11-25 2:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> In <m34qjeemva.fsf@mchsi.com> Bill White wrote:
> What's the current status of smtp authentication in cvs gnus? My
> employer has recently instituted authentication and I haven't been
> able to get cvs gnus to do it.
> Last I heard (a few months ago), a file needed to be patched and other
> gyrations needed to be performed to handle authentication.
There's no necessity to modify any Lisp modules since 2002-05-09
if you are using Emacs CVS. See the beginning of the smtpmail.el
file, which can be found in the /some.where/21.3.50/lisp/mail/
directory. My setting is similar to the following:
(setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
(setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.jpl.org")
(setq smtpmail-local-domain "jpl.org")
(setq smtpmail-sendto-domain "jpl.org")
(setq smtpmail-debug-info t)
(setq smtpmail-auth-credentials
'(("mail.jpl.org" 25 "yamaoka" "password")))
(setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
'(("mail.jpl.org" 25 nil nil)))
Don't set `smtpmail-starttls-credentials' if you don't have the
external starttls program.
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 2:14 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2004-11-25 3:00 ` Bill White
2004-11-25 5:01 ` Bill White
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bill White @ 2004-11-25 3:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On the Memorial of Saint Andrew Dung-Lac and his companions, A. D. 2004, at 20:14, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> said:
>>>>>> In <m34qjeemva.fsf@mchsi.com> Bill White wrote:
>
>> What's the current status of smtp authentication in cvs gnus? My
>> employer has recently instituted authentication and I haven't been
>> able to get cvs gnus to do it.
>
>> Last I heard (a few months ago), a file needed to be patched and
>> other gyrations needed to be performed to handle authentication.
>
> There's no necessity to modify any Lisp modules since 2002-05-09 if
> you are using Emacs CVS. See the beginning of the smtpmail.el file,
> which can be found in the /some.where/21.3.50/lisp/mail/ directory.
> My setting is similar to the following:
Thank you for your swift reply and your setup hints. I am using emacs
from cvs. I'll get everything updated & compiled and make a fresh
try.
bw
--
Bill White . billw@mchsi.com . http://members.wri.com/billw
"No, ma'am, we're musicians."
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 2:14 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-11-25 3:00 ` Bill White
@ 2004-11-25 5:01 ` Bill White
2004-11-25 5:30 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-11-25 13:16 ` David Edmondson
1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Bill White @ 2004-11-25 5:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
On Wed Nov 24 2004 at 20:14, Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org> said:
>>>>>> In <m34qjeemva.fsf@mchsi.com> Bill White wrote:
>
>> What's the current status of smtp authentication in cvs gnus? My
>> employer has recently instituted authentication and I haven't been
>> able to get cvs gnus to do it.
>
>> Last I heard (a few months ago), a file needed to be patched and other
>> gyrations needed to be performed to handle authentication.
>
> There's no necessity to modify any Lisp modules since 2002-05-09
> if you are using Emacs CVS. See the beginning of the smtpmail.el
> file, which can be found in the /some.where/21.3.50/lisp/mail/
> directory. My setting is similar to the following:
>
> (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.jpl.org")
> (setq smtpmail-local-domain "jpl.org")
> (setq smtpmail-sendto-domain "jpl.org")
> (setq smtpmail-debug-info t)
> (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials
> '(("mail.jpl.org" 25 "yamaoka" "password")))
> (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials
> '(("mail.jpl.org" 25 nil nil)))
I've tried this with my information to no avail. I can send mail to
addresses within my employer's domain (as before), but not outside it.
Does it matter that our mail clients are required to use SSL to
authenticate? Would I need some extra settings to handle that?
The relevant error from my SMTP trace is:
550 5.7.1 <billw@mchsi.com>... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.
Thanks -
bw
--
Bill White . billw@mchsi.com . http://members.wri.com/billw
"No, ma'am, we're musicians."
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 5:01 ` Bill White
@ 2004-11-25 5:30 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2004-11-25 13:16 ` David Edmondson
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2004-11-25 5:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
>>>>> In <m3oehmplnd.fsf@mchsi.com> Bill White wrote:
> I've tried this with my information to no avail. I can send mail to
> addresses within my employer's domain (as before), but not outside it.
> Does it matter that our mail clients are required to use SSL to
> authenticate? Would I need some extra settings to handle that?
> The relevant error from my SMTP trace is:
> 550 5.7.1 <billw@mchsi.com>... Relaying denied. Proper authentication required.
Sending the EHLO command may show a hint. To do that, connect
to the port 25 of the smtp server using telnet, and type:
EHLO hostname
(where `hostname' should be replaced with the name of your host)
and then:
QUIT
Here's a session I logged:
bash-2.05a$ telnet localhost 25
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-mail.example.com ESMTP Exim 4.42 #1 Thu, 25 Nov 2004 00:23:32 -0500
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.
EHLO localhost
250-mail.example.com Hello localhost [127.0.0.1]
250-SIZE 52428800
250-PIPELINING
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250-STARTTLS
250 HELP
QUIT
221 mail.example.com closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
This server supports `AUTH PLAIN LOGIN' and `STARTTLS'. I'm
sorry I don't know how to deal with protocols other than them.
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 5:01 ` Bill White
2004-11-25 5:30 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2004-11-25 13:16 ` David Edmondson
2004-11-25 14:02 ` Simon Josefsson
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Edmondson @ 2004-11-25 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
* billw@mchsi.com [2004-11-25 05:01:26]
> I've tried this with my information to no avail. I can send mail to
> addresses within my employer's domain (as before), but not outside
> it. Does it matter that our mail clients are required to use SSL to
> authenticate? Would I need some extra settings to handle that?
This is the case where you need the "starttls" binary, I believe. It
manages the transition from clear-text protocol exchange to SSL
encrypted exchange.
The version of starttls.c I have came from:
% cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root login
CVS password: [CR] # NULL string
% cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root checkout starttls
dme.
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* Re: status of smtp authentication?
2004-11-25 13:16 ` David Edmondson
@ 2004-11-25 14:02 ` Simon Josefsson
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-11-25 14:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
David Edmondson <dme@dme.org> writes:
> * billw@mchsi.com [2004-11-25 05:01:26]
>> I've tried this with my information to no avail. I can send mail to
>> addresses within my employer's domain (as before), but not outside
>> it. Does it matter that our mail clients are required to use SSL to
>> authenticate? Would I need some extra settings to handle that?
>
> This is the case where you need the "starttls" binary, I believe. It
> manages the transition from clear-text protocol exchange to SSL
> encrypted exchange.
>
> The version of starttls.c I have came from:
> % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root login
> CVS password: [CR] # NULL string
> % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/root checkout starttls
Installing GnuTLS should also work. I recommended it over starttls.
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