From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53376 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap versus tls Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:13:06 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ptmfhxj6.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <84of0ab15z.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87k7axwef3.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <843chlyw19.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87adbrq0dy.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <84he5z4pne.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <873chjtj8o.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <848yraamxb.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <873chiiyqu.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87el12lle3.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <84isqebb9r.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <87smpgzmm1.fsf@cam.ac.uk> <87brw2sj41.fsf@cam.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057839809 5306 80.91.224.249 (10 Jul 2003 12:23:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:23:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1920@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jul 10 14:23:27 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19aaS3-0001Mb-00 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:23:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19aaSc-0008B1-00; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19aaSU-0008At-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:23:34 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 66117 invoked by alias); 10 Jul 2003 12:23:25 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 66110 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2003 12:23:11 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 12:23:11 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6ACN6ka022213 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:23:07 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030710:ding@gnus.org:602e55a169c9a888 X-Hashcash: 0:030710:ding@gnus.org:602e55a169c9a888 In-Reply-To: <87brw2sj41.fsf@cam.ac.uk> (Gaute B. Strokkenes's message of "Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:42:54 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53376 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53376 Gaute B Strokkenes writes: >> IMHO, gnutls-cli should print this to stderr instead of stdout. > > It does. It doesn't make a difference: the elisp manual states that > stderr and stdout of subprocesses can't be separated without using > shell redirection or something similar, and unless I misread the code, > we do no such thing. Should we add a '2>/dev/null' to the imap-*-program variables then? On the other hand, we need the initial stuff (like 'Client authentication finished') to notice authentication status, and that is probably printed to stderr. Ouch.