From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50664 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: charset=macintosh Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:47:20 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047066468 22341 80.91.224.249 (7 Mar 2003 19:47:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Fri Mar 07 20:47:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rNog-0005nC-00 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:47:38 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18rNop-0006m0-00; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:47:47 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:48:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA10011 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:48:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 45126 invoked by alias); 7 Mar 2003 19:47:29 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 45121 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2003 19:47:28 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 19:47:28 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h27JlLdD028545 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:47:21 +0100 Original-To: Karl Eichwalder Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030307:keichwa@gmx.net:fa25671d2f1e5564 X-Hashcash: 0:030307:keichwa@gmx.net:fa25671d2f1e5564 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030307:ding@gnus.org:adb8814fcf06741c X-Hashcash: 0:030307:ding@gnus.org:adb8814fcf06741c In-Reply-To: (Karl Eichwalder's message of "Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:30:00 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50664 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50664 Karl Eichwalder writes: > I also observed that even more users don't set the Mime headers at > all! And Gnus assumes UTF-8 for those postings and that's always > wrong -- as you might imagine ;) On decoding it should be smarter since non-ASCII and non-UTF-8 texts typically is invalid UTF-8, so it is possible to detect and recover. I posted some tests to gnus.test on quimby and they don't work well. If the emacs mule engine handles the magic, it should be simple to make Gnus do the right thing, otherwise it might require some work. Maybe a mm-decoding-system-priorities. Hm.