From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/37218 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `new' indicator for nnimap groups? Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 01:01:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172671 12684 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:57:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:57:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 1547 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2001 23:00:51 -0000 Original-Received: from dolk.extundo.com (195.42.214.242) by gnus.org with SMTP; 28 Jul 2001 23:00:51 -0000 Original-Received: from barbar.josefsson.org (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated) by dolk.extundo.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6SN0xw12568; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 01:01:00 +0200 Original-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-1?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Sat, 28 Jul 2001 18:18:56 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) Original-Lines: 22 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37218 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:37218 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: >> With messages, isn't N the same as an unread article (marked as such >> by Gnus)? Maybe I should test Mutt.. > > No. I had some unread articles in my nnimap:INBOX. They arrived > there as fresh messages, then I read them, but then I hit `M-u'. And > two articles arrived in the past five minutes or so so I had never > looked at them at all. > > It seems mutt was able to distinguish between the ones that were > _really_ new versus the ones where I used `M-u'. Aha. That translates into the \Recent flag in IMAP. I added a secondary flag "recent" to my Gnus but I found it quite useless -- the \Recent flag in IMAP is defined to only be present on articles the first time a mailbox is selected with the new messages. Gnus/nnimap often (re-)selects mailboxes so you'll never see the mark in the real-world -- \Recent will be gone once the summary buffer is about to be generated. But something similar could perhaps be useful.