From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/44683 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Annoying new features in newer Oorts Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 17:18:05 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <3229147191814452@oakhurst.yi.org> <6usn5d4jia.fsf@zork.zork.net> <3229150801659975@oakhurst.yi.org> <3229343185064781@oakhurst.yi.org> <6u8z72czxn.fsf@zork.zork.net> <6ubsbxadgb.fsf@zork.zork.net> <874rhozzpj.fsf@squeaker.lickey.com> <87elgqhgdp.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1020612004 14310 127.0.0.1 (5 May 2002 15:20:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 15:20:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 174Nnv-0003ih-00 for ; Sun, 05 May 2002 17:20:03 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 174Nmm-0007XD-00; Sun, 05 May 2002 10:18:52 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 05 May 2002 10:19:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA29187 for ; Sun, 5 May 2002 10:18:53 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 2868 invoked by alias); 5 May 2002 15:18:33 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2863 invoked from network); 5 May 2002 15:18:33 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 5 May 2002 15:18:33 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g45FIGQ4000849; Sun, 5 May 2002 17:18:16 +0200 Original-To: Steinar Bang In-Reply-To: <87elgqhgdp.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Sun, 05 May 2002 15:29:54 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Economic Science, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44683 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:44683 Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> Matt Armstrong : > >> I notice that C-a toggles between the end of line and just after the >> colon. Could we change C-a to go to the beginning of the line first >> and to the colon when already there? This way you'd do C-a C-a to >> get the magical behavior and people's hard coded brain pathways >> would not be strained as hard. > > Good suggestion. I'm for it. I like this approach better as well. OTOH, it seems as if Emacs in general is moving away from C-a meaning start of line, so the new message behaviour is consistent with the rest of modern emacs. I like the behaviour in the shell mode, and in minibuffer prompts, but it feels wrong in message mode. The same behaviour could be used when jumping passed quote prefixes as well. C-a goes to start of line, C-a again goes to start of quoted text.