From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46140 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus changes in Emacs-Unicode branch Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:12:29 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029449766 6851 127.0.0.1 (15 Aug 2002 22:16:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17fSuT-0001mO-00 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:16:05 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17fSrI-0006wh-00; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:12:48 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:13:18 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA14953 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:13:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 12145 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2002 22:12:30 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12140 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2002 22:12:30 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 15 Aug 2002 22:12:30 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7FMCMi2027085; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 00:12:23 +0200 Original-To: Dave Love Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:020815:d.love@dl.ac.uk:3728251b8632cf11 X-Hashcash: 0:020815:ding@gnus.org:a6ab755ad68f00be In-Reply-To: (Dave Love's message of "15 Aug 2002 18:20:27 +0100") Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46140 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46140 Dave Love writes: >> I can think of at least one unicode related feature present >> in Oort not present in 5.9.0; support for the new usefor UTF-8 >> headers. > > I don't know what that means, but I _hope_ it has nothing to do with > the Emacs internal encoding. It shouldn't, but I haven't verified it. >> If this path is chosen, it would mean that your code cannot >> simply assume it is running in a unicode emacs, > > I have tried to _eliminate_ assumptions in the MIME code about what > it's running in. There's little reason for the code to care about the > internal encoding, despite how it was written. That is good, I think. > [This applies to Emacs. As far as I can tell, XEmacs Mule lacks the > necessary machinery to do things properly.] It shouldn't be worse than it is today, which seems to be enough for many people.