From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45569 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: couple of questions about servers and agent Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:40:05 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026135614 12115 127.0.0.1 (8 Jul 2002 13:40:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 13:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17RYkP-00039I-00 for ; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:40:14 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17RYkb-0003f1-00; Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:40:25 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 08 Jul 2002 08:40:48 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA21647 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 08:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 12055 invoked by alias); 8 Jul 2002 13:40:09 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 12050 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2002 13:40:08 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Jul 2002 13:40:08 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g68De5wF006466 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2002 15:40:06 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 020708:ding@gnus.org:42edcd583e59b27e In-Reply-To: (NAGY Andras's message of "Mon, 08 Jul 2002 15:16:59 +0200") Original-Lines: 44 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO version=2.20 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45569 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45569 NAGY Andras writes: > In the Server buffer, why do {nntp:news} and {nnml:mail} appear twice? You probably subscribed to groups on that server and later changed the server definition. Gnus then re-create the server, and you get two servers that looks identical but really isn't. Solution is to G e on groups and make sure it is equal to your current server definition, or a "nntp:news" reference name. > My nntp:news backend became quite unstable recently, so I decided to > agentize it. Pushed `J a' on it in the Server buffer, and while > online, used `J s' to fetch all unread articles into the cache. Due > to the server being unstable, the downloading timed out, but the agent > displayed "Finished fetching articles into the Gnus agent", altough it > should have displayed some kind of error message, I believe. Exactly how did the server fail? If you can track it down to the Gnus function that failed, it would help. > I decided to go on with the partially downloaded news. IMHO this should work just fine. Gnus should never bail out because disk structures are corrupt, it should just cope. > After going offline, Gnus still tried `sometimes' to contact the > (unavailable) server. May this be related to the server being listed > twice in the server buffer, but only one instance being marked as > `(agent)' ? I think so. You only agentized one of the servers, most likely. > Actually, not even the partially downloaded groups were readable > offline. Hm. What happened? Were there any information in the ~/News/agent/server/group directory? > I'm confused. Is the Agent such non-robust, or am I doing something > wrong? I'm not sure, every time I try to use the agent I feel like running into some limitation or other, but I usually tell myself it is because I'm using the agent differently than what was intended.