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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: mml-secure: function doubled, passwd chache, use-my-public key
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 21:01:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iluhdfdf2w4.fsf@latte.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hdfe1jpz.fsf@wheatstone.g10code.de> (Werner Koch's message of "Fri, 01 Jul 2005 20:09:44 +0200")

Werner Koch <wk@gnupg.org> writes:

>> What more than setting pgg-cache-passphrase to nil do you want?
>
> No, because Gnus will ask for the passphrase and the passphrase will
> actually end up in the message if you accidently use it with enabled
> gpg-agent.

That doesn't happen here.  With pgg-c-p set to nil, Gnus won't ask me
for a passphrase, the pinentry dialog pop up instead (the first time),
and then message is signed.  No passphrase in the message either.

>> Then why isn't used automatically?  To get it working I had to start
>
> Isn't that a packaging feature?

Right.  It was just a rant.

>> the daemon manually and add 'use-agent' to ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf.
>
> Without that many people would inadvertly send the passphrase with the
> message; consider the usual invocation pog gpg:
>
>  (echo passphrase; cat message) | gpg --passphrase-fd 0 ... >out.msg
>
> so it is far safer to require a conscious decision from the user.

Ouch.  OTOH, it seem wrong in the long run.  Perhaps 'use-agent' can
be enabled in the template gpg.conf for future users.  But it will
take a while to fix all applications...  O well.

>> is hardly user friendly.  When I log on my Debian box, ssh-agent is
>> started and I didn't do anything to make it run.  Perhaps gpg-agent
>> can be started in a similar way.  And there seem to be some font bug
>> in the pinentry dialog window, presumably Unicode related.
>
> The latest release 1.9.17 may indeed be started like ssh-agent and may
> actually replace ssh-agent (except for ssh v1 keys) - you can use a
> simple wrapper script named ssh-agent and everything works. See the
> info page.

Cool!



  reply	other threads:[~2005-07-02 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-30 21:59 Uwe Brauer
2005-06-30 20:14 ` Adam Sjøgren
2005-06-30 22:20   ` Uwe Brauer
2005-07-01 14:01     ` Werner Koch
     [not found] ` <87r7ejzetl.fsf-YB6e1s5WF/He5aOfsHch1g@public.gmane.org>
2005-07-01  7:45   ` Jochen Küpper
2005-07-01  9:55     ` Adam Sjøgren
2005-07-01  9:23 ` Simon Josefsson
2005-07-01 14:11 ` Werner Koch
     [not found]   ` <87psu239bo.fsf-nSUoxbSHa/NHjZm7OurPC6uB8pfgIIU7@public.gmane.org>
2005-07-01 14:30     ` Jochen Küpper
2005-07-01 17:58       ` Werner Koch
2005-07-01 14:43   ` Simon Josefsson
2005-07-01 18:09     ` Werner Koch
2005-07-02 19:01       ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2005-07-04 11:56         ` Werner Koch
2005-07-07 13:52     ` Uwe Brauer
2005-07-11 19:24       ` Simon Josefsson
2005-07-07 19:10 ` verify signature (was: mml-secure: function doubled, passwd chache, use-my-public key) Uwe Brauer
2005-07-07 17:38   ` verify signature Arne Jørgensen

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