cannot catchup

cannot catchup

[Sam Steingold]

I hit "c" or "C" on a newsgroup to mark everything as read,
and it now says that there are no new articles.
when I hit "g", however, all the 12,000 new articles are new again.
I cannot spend 10hours waiting for gnus to enter the group with 12,000
new articles, so how do I read it?
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Re: cannot catchup

[Vasily Korytov]

On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:24:58 -0500, Sam Steingold wrote:

> I hit "c" or "C" on a newsgroup to mark everything as read,
> and it now says that there are no new articles.
> when I hit "g", however, all the 12,000 new articles are new again.
> I cannot spend 10hours waiting for gnus to enter the group with 12,000
> new articles, so how do I read it?

First, you're using CVS Emacs, aren't you? =))
Try to reproduce all this with a stable one.

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Re: cannot catchup

[Sam Steingold]

> * Sam Steingold <fqf@tah.bet> [2005-03-01 17:24:58 -0500]:
>
> I hit "c" or "C" on a newsgroup to mark everything as read,
> and it now says that there are no new articles.
> when I hit "g", however, all the 12,000 new articles are new again.
> I cannot spend 10hours waiting for gnus to enter the group with 12,000
> new articles, so how do I read it?

it appears that I have two identical groups:

   s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 
   s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 

"^" in *Groups*, then RET on gmane in *Servers*, then "u" on an
unsubscried group ==> 2 such groups.

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Re: cannot catchup

[Simon Josefsson]

Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:

>> * Sam Steingold <fqf@tah.bet> [2005-03-01 17:24:58 -0500]:
>>
>> I hit "c" or "C" on a newsgroup to mark everything as read,
>> and it now says that there are no new articles.
>> when I hit "g", however, all the 12,000 new articles are new again.
>> I cannot spend 10hours waiting for gnus to enter the group with 12,000
>> new articles, so how do I read it?
>
> it appears that I have two identical groups:
>
>    s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 
>    s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 
>
> "^" in *Groups*, then RET on gmane in *Servers*, then "u" on an
> unsubscried group ==> 2 such groups.

If you kill both groups, restart emacs, and subscribe to the group
again, can you reproduce this?  I suspect the server name for one of
the identical groups is slightly off, so equality comparison fails.
`G E' on the groups will tell.

(The reason killing both groups and subscribing to it again, without
restarting emacs, might not be enough is that groups linger around in
some structures when they are killed.)

Re: cannot catchup

[David Abrahams]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Sam Steingold <sds@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> * Sam Steingold <fqf@tah.bet> [2005-03-01 17:24:58 -0500]:
>>>
>>> I hit "c" or "C" on a newsgroup to mark everything as read,
>>> and it now says that there are no new articles.
>>> when I hit "g", however, all the 12,000 new articles are new again.
>>> I cannot spend 10hours waiting for gnus to enter the group with 12,000
>>> new articles, so how do I read it?
>>
>> it appears that I have two identical groups:
>>
>>    s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 
>>    s6U 2989n  0s 12328o  gmane.comp.gnu.mingw.user             20040622T122410 
>>
>> "^" in *Groups*, then RET on gmane in *Servers*, then "u" on an
>> unsubscried group ==> 2 such groups.
>
> If you kill both groups, restart emacs, and subscribe to the group
> again, can you reproduce this?  I suspect the server name for one of
> the identical groups is slightly off, so equality comparison fails.
> `G E' on the groups will tell.
>
> (The reason killing both groups and subscribing to it again, without
> restarting emacs, might not be enough is that groups linger around in
> some structures when they are killed.)

I've experinced the same thing, over and over again, intermittently.
Normally I end up entering the group and doing `c' there, and also
doing it from the *Groups* buffer.  Eventually it responds :(


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