From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58874 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: pop3.el itegration with netrc.el Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:01:52 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4n7jpu4o7d.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097780563 7738 80.91.229.6 (14 Oct 2004 19:02:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7412@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Oct 14 21:02:35 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIAry-0004na-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:02:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIAri-00064A-00; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:02:18 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CIAre-000645-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:02:14 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CIArd-0001TK-6S for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:02:13 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BC83A0038 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:02:12 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CIArb-0000X9-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:02:11 +0200 Original-Received: from c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se ([217.215.27.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:02:11 +0200 Original-Received: from jas by c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:02:11 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JHGdPCHyRSJ+ARcZ9S2yoTjabYw= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58874 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58874 Reiner Steib writes: >> So perhaps we can make this one the canonical copy, and add new >> features to it. I'd say go ahead. > > Dave Love pointed out that `pop3.el' could be used outside Gnus and > suggested to remove the nn-whatever dependencies. If we think that > this is a valuable goal, we should avoid adding further dependencies. > > ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs/3974 ] > | pop3.el shouldn't use nnheader-accept-process-output, so it can be > | used outside Gnus. > `---- I agree, but I wouldn't consider netrc.el, password.el nor encrypt.el as something part of Gnus, even though they technically are. They are (or will be) small standalone libraries. But the nn* dependency is bad, using nn* will lead to loading parts of Gnus. Can't we write a pop3-accept-process-output, and drop the nnheader dependency? Seems simple.