From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46321 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: detecting encoding for Japanese Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:43:01 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87sn0y43mc.fsf@ghidra.vail> <87fzwxycy9.fsf@ghidra.vail> <873csxws40.fsf@ghidra.vail> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030704190 22906 127.0.0.1 (30 Aug 2002 10:43:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:43:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gnus List Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17kjF6-0005xK-00 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:43:08 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17kjFP-0001py-00; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 05:43:27 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 05:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA18061 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 05:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 29685 invoked by alias); 30 Aug 2002 10:43:08 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29680 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2002 10:43:06 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 30 Aug 2002 10:43:06 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id g7UAh22u020379 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:43:03 +0200 Original-To: Hal Snyder Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:020830:hal@vailsys.com:40417c121d4da0a7 X-Hashcash: 0:020830:ding@gnus.org:b78de6817e880d17 In-Reply-To: <873csxws40.fsf@ghidra.vail> (Hal Snyder's message of "Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:24:15 -0500") Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46321 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46321 Hal Snyder writes: >> Aha, then you can use g-g-c-a to set the default for each group. >> >> If more than one untagged encodings is used within a single group, >> you must use 1 g or the menubar to input the desired encoding >> manually. > > Yes, multiple untagged encodings appear (sometimes UTF-8, but I guess > I have to wait for Emacs 22 for that). All sorts of users show up on > the list. Another solution would be to tell them to use a standards compliant MUA. (UTF-8 should work in released Emacs 21's too, I think.) >> Or where you asking for a new feature where Gnus used Emacs' builtin >> AI to guess what encoding untagged data? That could perhaps work, >> but I don't know how to implement it. > > Probably that is indeed what I was asking for. GNU Emacs indeed seems > to know how to guess encoding when a file is visited. The 1g command > suggested by you (and Kai, thanks) helps, but presumes I know the > encoding before switching. As time permits, I'll have a look at the > "builtin AI". Yes, using the builtin AI for untagged messages seems like the best compromise.