From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45834 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: naive charset question Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:26:59 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027711708 21867 127.0.0.1 (26 Jul 2002 19:28:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 19:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17YAlG-0005gZ-00 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:28:26 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17YAkm-0002CQ-00; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:27:56 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:28:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA28736 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 14:28:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 19902 invoked by alias); 26 Jul 2002 19:27:32 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19897 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2002 19:27:31 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 Jul 2002 19:27:31 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6QJQxkd032129; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 21:27:00 +0200 Original-To: Ken Raeburn Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 020726:raeburn@raeburn.org:45e2fa6737b2c519 X-Hashcash: 020726:ding@gnus.org:39c214c751f76c48 In-Reply-To: (Ken Raeburn's message of "Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:31:10 -0400") Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45834 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45834 Ken Raeburn writes: > I found it! An old part of my .emacs code invoked > > (standard-display-european 1) > > which is described as > > Semi-obsolete way to toggle display of ISO 8859 European characters... > > but in fact appears to be actively detrimental in some cases. Yup. Should Gnus make an effort to work in this case? Ideally Gnus should make sure all buffers it uses has the correct unibyte status needed for its operation, or operate correctly regardless of unibyte status. Perhaps Gnus should require non-unibyte Emacs? But you sort of get what you asked for if you disable multibyte -- you don't get any multibytes, even in Gnus. Perhaps Gnus could fail more gracefully though. Hm. I reported the devanagari problem though, sending the HELLO file using Gnus is a good regression test and should always work (it does in Emacs 21.2). And users should never have to configure anything to get proper non-ASCII support IMHO.