From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58159 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Improve G m to make it more user friendly? Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:37:17 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <86r7reiu65.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> <86iscmoddn.fsf@rumba.de.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1090860087 12922 80.91.224.253 (26 Jul 2004 16:41:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6700@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jul 26 18:41:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bp8XP-0002vh-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:41:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bp8Tl-0007lo-00; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:37:33 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bp8Tg-0007lj-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:37:28 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bp8Te-000118-1v for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:37:26 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3914F3A0034 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:37:22 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bp8TY-000058-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:37:20 +0200 Original-Received: from c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se ([217.215.27.65]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:37:20 +0200 Original-Received: from jas by c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:37:20 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c494102a.s-bi.bostream.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:bViaSGrs6ZXJWiyk+IA87HykJgQ= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58159 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58159 Harry Putnam writes: > Katsumi Yamaoka writes: > >> The new `G m' command looks nice to me, but... >> >> Try the following: >> >> mv .newsrc.eld newsrc.eld >> mv .newsrc newsrc >> mv .gnus.el gnus.el >> emacs -f gnus >> >> Then, how do we make the nnml:inbox group? Typing `G m >> nnml:inbox RET' creates the `inbox' group, not `nnml:inbox'. >> Because the nnml server has not been activated yet, maybe. In >> other words, should new users type `M-x gnus-group-make-group' >> instead of `G m'? :) > > I think Katsumi's point is well taken. I just stumbled into this > after a recent cvs update. > > I wanted to create an nnml group but I see no way to do that with the > new `G m' code. > > Typing `G m' gives me a `Group:' prompt. Already its more confusing > than the old way. As I recall the old way prompt had the word `name' > in it somewhere, so it was clear this was the final name being > requested. Skipping that for a moment. > > Neither nnml:bperl nor bperl results in the desired > nnml:bperl. > I don't think this is really usable as it is. Ok, I reverted part of the patch, so that `G m' now work as before. `gnus-group-make-group-simple' is still available, though, if someone wants to use it. Perhaps there can be a separate key/menu binding for *-simple, since the function might be useful for some.