From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45861 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: naive charset question Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:50:30 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1027803124 29296 127.0.0.1 (27 Jul 2002 20:52:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 20:52:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17YYXh-0007c7-00 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17YYWp-00077k-00; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:51:33 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA01285 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 15:51:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 23346 invoked by alias); 27 Jul 2002 20:50:50 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23341 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2002 20:50:50 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Jul 2002 20:50:50 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6RKoUkd014283; Sat, 27 Jul 2002 22:50:31 +0200 Original-To: Ken Raeburn Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 020727:raeburn@raeburn.org:fb50592753a05ee8 X-Hashcash: 020727:ding@gnus.org:133ffe3f708d8c6b In-Reply-To: (Ken Raeburn's message of "Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:42:08 -0400") Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45861 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45861 Ken Raeburn writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: >>> (standard-display-european 1) >> Yup. Should Gnus make an effort to work in this case? > >> status. Perhaps Gnus should require non-unibyte Emacs? But you sort >> of get what you asked for if you disable multibyte -- you don't get >> any multibytes, even in Gnus. Perhaps Gnus could fail more gracefully >> though. Hm. > > While standard-display-european may make unibyte the default, it > doesn't seem to actually disable multibyte support. I can run > > emacs -q --unibyte --eval '(standard-display-european 1)' > > and the HELLO file still displays with some Asian, Cyrillic, Hebrew > and other characters, and enable-multibyte-characters still winds up > set to t in the help buffer. So Gnus should re-enable multibyte in the buffer where it needs it. This is done in alot of places, but apparently not enough. I have a suspision it might mean work to fix it, but I'll see if it is something simple.