From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/33724 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: smtp authentication (sendmail relay) Date: 17 Dec 2000 19:41:35 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <200012170829.eBH8T2Z30966@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035169775 26587 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:09:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:09:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "(ding)" Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480AFD049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:42:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB27534; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:42:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:41:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04955 for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 12:41:10 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from dolk.extundo.com (dolk.extundo.com [195.42.214.242]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E82D049D for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 13:41:35 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by dolk.extundo.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eBHIfY028940; Sun, 17 Dec 2000 19:41:34 +0100 Original-To: Stainless Steel Rat In-Reply-To: Mail-Copies-To: nobody Original-Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.0.93 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33724 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:33724 Stainless Steel Rat writes: > | In fact, not really sure where those smtp negotiations get handled. > > If newsguy is doing what I suspect they are doing, they don't. > Authenticated SMTP hooks into POP authentication. There is SMTP AUTH (rfc 2554) and SMTP STARTTLS (rfc 2246 + 2595) too, they are better than the POP cludge. Harry might use telnet to find out if it's supported by the server or not, just say "ehlo foo" to the server, and notice if STARTTLS or AUTH CRAM-MD5 is part of the response. $ telnet test.smtp.org 25 Trying 209.220.147.188... Connected to test.smtp.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 test.smtp.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.2.Beta1 ready at Sun, 17 Dec 2000 10:38:48 -0800 (PST); see http://test.smtp.org/ ehlo foo 250-test.smtp.org Hello slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-EXPN 250-VERB 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ONEX 250-ETRN 250-XUSR 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 PLAIN LOGIN 250-STARTTLS 250 HELP