From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19290 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: multipart/related test Date: 29 Nov 1998 15:56:52 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004A_01BE164B.06FC2A20" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157666 10848 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:47:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18183 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:04:02 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB13749; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:03:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:03:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19835 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 09:03:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp049.uio.no [129.240.240.50]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18136 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:03:17 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA31470; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:14:15 +0100 X-Now-Reading: Greg Bear's _Slant_ X-Now-Playing: Stereolab's _Aluminium Tunes [Switched On 3] (cd1)_: "Pop Quiz" Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.070056 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.56) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\
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19:56:11 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "29 Nov 1998 15:56:52 +0100" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070056 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.56) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19298 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19298 Just installed pgnus-0.56 and w3-4.0pre.30 on Emacs 20.3, and this is what happened: ,----- | Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments # 3) | (buffer-string nil nil (mm-handle-buffer part)) | (setq data (buffer-string nil nil (mm-handle-buffer part)) content-type (mm-handle-type part) encoding (symbol-name (mm-handle-encoding part))) | (if (not part) (message "Unknown CID encounterred: %s" url) (setq data (buffer-string nil nil ...) content-type (mm-handle-type part) encoding (symbol-name ...)) (if (= 0 ...) (setq content-type "text/plain")) (if (= 0 ...) (setq encoding "8bit")) (if (listp content-type) (setq content-type ...)) (setq url-current-content-length (length data) url-current-mime-type content-type url-current-mime-encoding encoding url-current-mime-headers (list ... ...)) (and data (insert data))) | (let ((content-type nil) (encoding nil) (part nil) (data nil)) (setq part (mm-get-content-id url)) (if (not part) (message "Unknown CID encounterred: %s" url) (setq data ... content-type ... encoding ...) (if ... ...) (if ... ...) (if ... ...) (setq url-current-content-length ... url-current-mime-type content-type url-current-mime-encoding encoding url-current-mime-headers ...) (and data ...))) | url-cid-gnus("003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win") | (cond ((fboundp ...) (url-cid-gnus url)) (t (message "Unable to handle CID URL: %s" url))) | (if (not (string-match "^cid:\\(.*\\)" url)) (message "Malformed CID URL: %s" url) (setq url (url-unhex-string ...)) (cond (... ...) (t ...))) | url-cid("cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win") | url-retrieve-internally("cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" nil) | url-retrieve("cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win") | w3-fetch("cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win") | widget-image-notify((image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children ((item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face ... :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent #0 :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #)) buffer #) (item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w 3! ! -style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent (image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children (#0) buffer #) :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #) nil) | widget-apply((image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children ((item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face ... :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent #0 :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #)) buffer #) :notify (item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w! ! 3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent (image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children (#0) buffer #) :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #) nil) | widget-default-action((item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent (image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children (#0) buffer #) :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #) nil) | widget-apply((item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent (image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children (#0) buffer #) :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #) :action nil) | widget-apply-action((item :args nil :value usemap :format "%[%t%]" :tag "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :tab-order -1 :delete widget-default-delete :action widget-default-action :notify widget-image-callback :parent (image :args nil alt "[cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win]" ismap nil usemap nil :href nil :target nil :button-face (w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00002 w3-style-face-00001 w3-style-face-00000 w3-style-face-00000) :src "cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win" where # :children (#0) buffer #) :help-echo widget-image-summarize :button-overlay # :from # :to #) nil) | widget-button-press(2300) | call-interactively(widget-button-press) `----- kai -- Life is hard and then you die. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19299 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 29 Nov 1998 19:56:49 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157674 10895 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:47:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22061 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:57:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAB16568; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:57:12 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:57:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22087 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:57:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22051 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:56:56 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (ramses.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.180]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id TAA07428 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:56:50 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de id TAA10535; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:56:49 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "29 Nov 1998 19:56:10 +0100" Original-Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070056 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.56) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19299 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19299 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes: > Just installed pgnus-0.56 and w3-4.0pre.30 on Emacs 20.3, and this > is what happened: [...] Err. When I invoked the cid button thingy, that is. kai -- Life is hard and then you die. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19300 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 29 Nov 1998 20:29:39 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157675 10896 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22829 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:38:53 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB16978; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:38:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:38:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22566 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:38:23 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from xiphias.pdc.kth.se (xiphias.pdc.kth.se [130.237.221.226]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22813 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:38:14 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from jas@localhost) by xiphias.pdc.kth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA23655; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:38:09 +0100 (MET) Original-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "29 Nov 1998 15:56:52 +0100" Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Lines: 15 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070056 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.56) XEmacs/21.0 (Poitou) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19300 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19300 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > This email was kinda originated by Outlook Express, but I've edited > it by hand afterwards. This text is green. In the left margin > there's a background picture. And here: > [cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win] there's a picture with > baseline alignment. It turned out OK here, but after viewing one of theese HTML emails, the Subject: lines has disappeared from all articles (in the article buffer, they look alright in the summary buffer). Perhaps it's a w3 matter, but how do I make it not listen bgcolor/fgcolor stuff when my emacs is on a tty? It looks kind of ugly.. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19301 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 29 Nov 1998 15:50:42 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <86emqmgr4t.fsf@kramer.bp.aventail.com> References: Reply-To: wmperry@aventail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157676 10904 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:47:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:47:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24590 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:55:28 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAB17499; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:50:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:50:57 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23500 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:50:48 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from slow.bp.aventail.com (user-38lc2cs.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.9.156]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24458 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:50:39 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from kramer.bp.aventail.com (kramer.bp.aventail.com [192.168.2.2]) by slow.bp.aventail.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19638; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:50:23 -0800 Original-Received: (from wmperry@localhost) by kramer.bp.aventail.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21610; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:50:42 -0500 Original-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen X-Face: O~Rn;(l][/-o1sALg4A@xpE:9-"'IR[%;,,!m7 writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > This email was kinda originated by Outlook Express, but I've edited > > it by hand afterwards. This text is green. In the left margin > > there's a background picture. And here: > > [cid:003e01be1642$a526f940$b86efea9@win] there's a picture with > > baseline alignment. > > It turned out OK here, but after viewing one of theese HTML emails, > the Subject: lines has disappeared from all articles (in the article > buffer, they look alright in the summary buffer). > > Perhaps it's a w3 matter, but how do I make it not listen > bgcolor/fgcolor stuff when my emacs is on a tty? It looks kind of > ugly.. (setq w3-user-colors-take-precedence t) -bp From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19304 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 29 Nov 1998 22:55:57 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157678 10915 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:47:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26059 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:47:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAB17793; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:47:08 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:47:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24253 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:46:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp047.uio.no [129.240.240.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26022 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:46:38 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA31793; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:57:44 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Greg Bear's _Slant_ X-Now-Playing: Stereolab's _Dots and Loops_: "Diagonals" Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "29 Nov 1998 19:56:10 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070057 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.57) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ Just installed pgnus-0.56 and w3-4.0pre.30 on Emacs 20.3, and this is > what happened: > > ,----- > | Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments # 3) > | (buffer-string nil nil (mm-handle-buffer part)) My bad. Emacs 20.3's `buffer-string' doesn't take a BUFFER parameter. Er. How weird. `buffer-string' is an alias for `buffer-substring' in XEmacs 21.2. Has it always been that way? And jere I just convinced RMS to let `buffer-string' take an optional BUFFER parameter in Emacs 20.4, all for naught, it seems... To clarify: In Emacs 20.4, `buffer-substring' takes mandatory START and END params, while `buffer-string' takes an optional BUFFER param. In XEmacs 21.2, there's only one function, which takes three optional params -- start, end, and buffer. I think the Emacs 20.4 thing makes more sense. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19308 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 00:11:43 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157681 10926 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28072 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:12:23 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAB18941; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:12:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:12:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25466 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:11:55 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28051 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:11:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id AAA19133; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:11:43 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE writes: > > > Just installed pgnus-0.56 and w3-4.0pre.30 on Emacs 20.3, and this is > > what happened: > > > > ,----- > > | Signaling: (wrong-number-of-arguments # 3) > > | (buffer-string nil nil (mm-handle-buffer part)) > > My bad. Emacs 20.3's `buffer-string' doesn't take a BUFFER > parameter. > > Er. How weird. `buffer-string' is an alias for `buffer-substring' in > XEmacs 21.2. Has it always been that way? And jere I just convinced > RMS to let `buffer-string' take an optional BUFFER parameter in Emacs > 20.4, all for naught, it seems... > > To clarify: In Emacs 20.4, `buffer-substring' takes mandatory START > and END params, while `buffer-string' takes an optional BUFFER > param. In XEmacs 21.2, there's only one function, which takes three > optional params -- start, end, and buffer. I think the Emacs 20.4 > thing makes more sense. So things were changed incompatibly -- again? :-( We can implement XEmacs `buffer-string' like this, but that's monstrosity: (defun buffer-string (&optional x y z) "@#$#@%#@$%#@$$@#$@#$@#" (if (or (bufferp x) (stringp x)) (buffer-substring nil nil x) (buffer-substring x y z))) After the `point-at-bol' fiasco, I'm not sure I want to see this code in XEmacs. :-( -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19311 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 01:15:44 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157684 10964 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00520 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:36:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB20387; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:35:50 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:35:49 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26425 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:35:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp063.uio.no [129.240.240.68]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00501 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:35:30 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id BAA02659; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:46:40 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Paul Auster's _Translations_ X-Now-Playing: Various's _The Fruit of the Original Sin_ Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "30 Nov 1998 00:11:43 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070057 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.57) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > We can implement XEmacs `buffer-string' like this, but that's > monstrosity: If it makes any difference $ grep -n "(buffer-string" */*.el | grep -v "buffer-string)" in xemacs-packages/lisp results in: gnus/nndb.el:296: (setq msg (buffer-string (point-min) (point-max))) gnus/nndb.el:323: (buffer-string (point-min) (point-max))) text-modes/image-mode.el:36: (vector type :data (buffer-string start end)) nil nil 'no-error))) I've now fixed nndb.el. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19313 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 01:42:39 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157686 10975 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00722 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:43:29 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAB20572; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:43:10 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:43:07 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26541 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:42:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00702 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:46 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id BAA05450; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:42:39 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > Hrvoje Niksic writes: > > > We can implement XEmacs `buffer-string' like this, but that's > > monstrosity: > > If it makes any difference > > $ grep -n "(buffer-string" */*.el | grep -v "buffer-string)" > > in xemacs-packages/lisp results in: [...] We cannot really know how many people are using `buffer-string' in their code. Fortunately, it is possible to make the function backward compatible, but I, for one, will not bother sending out the patch; I'm way too disgusted. As strange as it may sound, XEmacs has a user-base of its own, and IMHO we cannot afford to change documented interfaces on Stallman's whims, at least not in areas where XEmacs implemented stuff before FSF Emacs. -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Your lucky number today is 29842924728. Look for it everywhere. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19314 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 02:47:24 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157687 10983 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03220 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:11:08 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAB22368; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:05:31 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:05:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27211 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:05:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sparky.gnus.org (ppp091.uio.no [129.240.240.96]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03024 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:04:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by sparky.gnus.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA03378; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 03:16:09 +0100 Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Reading: Greg Bear's _Slant_ X-Now-Playing: Various's _The Fruit of the Original Sin_ Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Hrvoje Niksic's message of "30 Nov 1998 01:42:39 +0100" User-Agent: Gnus/5.070057 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.57) XEmacs/21.2(beta3) (Aglaia) X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ writes: > As strange as it may sound, XEmacs has a user-base of its own, and > IMHO we cannot afford to change documented interfaces on Stallman's > whims, at least not in areas where XEmacs implemented stuff before FSF > Emacs. Well, this is my whim, and not Stallman's. :-) Here's how I think it happened: I was programming under XEmacs, and I wrote `(buffer-string some-buffer)'. I then switched to Emacs, and the thing bugged out, of course. (As it would have done under XEmacs, but I guess I never tried.) I grumbled and rewrote it as `(save-excursion (set-buffer some-buffer) (buffer-string))'. And then I sent a patch to Stallman to make Emacs XEmacs-compliant (as I, in a particularly dizzy moment, thought it to be), and he accepted it. I still do think that my dizzyness yielded a better function than the hard truth. `buffer-string' and `buffer-substring' have different feeling, and I think it makes sense to have them as separate functions. I mean -- you seldom want to give a buffer argument to `buffer-substring', but you often want to give it to `buffer-string', so having to write `(buffer-string nil nil some-buffer)' feels weird to me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19341 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan Vroonhof Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:02:37 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157708 11097 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:28 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17185 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:03:20 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB04837; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:03:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:03:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03057 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:02:56 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from frege.math.ethz.ch (root@frege-d-math-north-g-west.math.ethz.ch [129.132.145.3]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17170 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:02:45 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from bolzano (vroonhof@bolzano [129.132.146.140]) by frege.math.ethz.ch (8.8.8/Main-STAT-mailer) with ESMTP id PAA13289 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:02:24 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (vroonhof@localhost) by bolzano (SMI-8.6/D-MATH-client) id PAA13317; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:02:37 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:06:03 GMT" Original-Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070054 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.54) XEmacs/21.0 (Pyrenean-pre7) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19341 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19341 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > And then I sent a patch to Stallman to make Emacs XEmacs-compliant (as > I, in a particularly dizzy moment, thought it to be), and he accepted > it. This is FSF 20.4 isn't it, so there is still time to change it back...Or has FSF 20.4 been released now. Jan From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19342 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:06:46 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157709 11098 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17226 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:07:44 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB04915; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:07:26 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:07:19 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03115 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:07:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de (waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.4.42]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17216 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:07:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (ramses.cs.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.20.180]) by waldorf.cs.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP id PAA26602 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:06:47 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: (grossjoh@localhost) by ramses.informatik.uni-dortmund.de id PAA13856; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:06:46 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "30 Nov 1998 02:47:24 +0100" Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070056 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.56) Emacs/20.3 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19342 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:19342 [[ buffer-string vs. buffer-substring ]] Here's what I see: Emacs 20.3: (buffer-string) (buffer-substring START END) XEmacs 20.4: (buffer-string &optional START END BUFFER) (buffer-substring &optional START END BUFFER) So a compatible change would be to add an optional argument BUFFER to the Emacs 20.3 implementation of buffer-substring. buffer-string is more difficult, but I don't quite understand the START and END arguments in XEmacs 20.4 here, anyway. Either it's just one function like XEmacs 20.4 buffer-substring, or it's two functions: (buffer-string &optional BUFFER) (buffer-substring START END &optional BUFFER) Both ways have their merit. Whatcha think? kai -- Life is hard and then you die. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/19344 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hrvoje Niksic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: multipart/related test Date: 30 Nov 1998 15:10:27 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035157710 11107 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:48:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:48:30 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from karazm.math.uh.edu (karazm.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17285 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:11:25 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by karazm.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAB05073; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:11:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:11:01 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03278 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:10:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from jagor.srce.hr (hniksic@jagor.srce.hr [161.53.2.130]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17276 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:10:40 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from hniksic@localhost) by jagor.srce.hr (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA23108; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:10:28 +0100 (MET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Attribution: Hrvoje X-Face: &{dT~)Pu6V<0y?>3p$;@vh\`C7xB~A0T-J%Og)J,@-1%q6Q+, gs<-9M#&`I8cJp2b1{vPE|~+JE+gx;a7%BG{}nY^ehK1"q#rG O,Rn1A_Cy%t]V=Brv7h writes: > Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > And then I sent a patch to Stallman to make Emacs XEmacs-compliant (as > > I, in a particularly dizzy moment, thought it to be), and he accepted > > it. > > This is FSF 20.4 isn't it, so there is still time to change it > back... Only if you convince Stallman to either back out the BUFFER argument to `buffer-substring' (unlikely) or to make `buffer-string' alias for `buffer-substring', and allow optional arguments to the latter (impossible.) -- Hrvoje Niksic | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- Predestination was doomed from the start.