From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52279 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Overbearing undownloaded face Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 01:31:07 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052091015 20647 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 23:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 23:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M822@lists.math.uh.edu Mon May 05 01:30:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CSvp-0005Mj-00 for ; Mon, 05 May 2003 01:30:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CSwz-0002pu-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 18:31:21 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CSwu-0002pp-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 May 2003 18:31:16 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 75151 invoked by alias); 4 May 2003 23:31:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 75146 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 23:31:15 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 23:31:15 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h44NV7bT032672; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:31:07 +0200 Original-To: David Abrahams Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030504:dave@boost-consulting.com:cba94cc47cd0bfb4 X-Hashcash: 0:030504:dave@boost-consulting.com:cba94cc47cd0bfb4 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030504:ding@gnus.org:b60f1352afceaeeb X-Hashcash: 0:030504:ding@gnus.org:b60f1352afceaeeb In-Reply-To: (David Abrahams's message of "Sun, 04 May 2003 19:10:39 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/20.7 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52279 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52279 David Abrahams writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> David Abrahams writes: >> >>> Simon Josefsson writes: >>> >>>> I sent a message asking for opinions about this a few months ago, but >>>> now that I try to find my message, I note that it contained a screen >>>> shot so it was probably rejected due to size. So: Opinions? >>> >>> I'm likin' it, though I don't exactly understand what the effect was. >> >> For me, it makes unread (and ticked, and ...) articles black instead >> of a green-blue-ish (undownloadable mark) color which looks almost >> identical to the green-blue-ish color which is used for read messages. > > That's what it does for me, too. What I meant was I'm not sure what > it's doing *technically*. If moving those Sexprs down makes them > ineffectual, can't they be eliminated? Ah. But it still has priority over the read mark. So if you have a read, undownloaded, article it will be marked with the undownloaded face instead of the read face. However, if the article is unread (or ticked, or ...), you will see the unread (or tick, or ...) face, instead of the undownloaded face. Wasn't undownloaded articles marked with a @ or % mark or something before? Do people care about the downloadedness of articles? I don't. If you select the article, you'll notice it is either there or not, and until I want to read the article, I don't care if it exists locally or not. But if I want to read it, having it marked in a special color isn't going to help me, since the article still doesn't exist locally. Hm. I must be missing some kind of use people make of the face.