From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50696 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: charset=macintosh Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:44:05 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <843clxud7u.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047152664 12541 80.91.224.249 (8 Mar 2003 19:44:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 19:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Sat Mar 08 20:44:21 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18rkF2-0003Fq-00 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 20:44:20 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18rkFB-0003UV-00; Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:44:29 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 08 Mar 2003 13:45:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA12477 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:45:15 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 50508 invoked by alias); 8 Mar 2003 19:44:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 50503 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 19:44:10 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 19:44:10 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h28Ji5ZG016534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Sat, 8 Mar 2003 20:44:06 +0100 Original-To: replies@Frank-Schmitt.net Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030308:replies@Frank-Schmitt.net:e2564e36515f62cf X-Hashcash: 0:030308:replies@Frank-Schmitt.net:e2564e36515f62cf X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030308:ding@gnus.org:16c20f1cfb58e774 X-Hashcash: 0:030308:ding@gnus.org:16c20f1cfb58e774 In-Reply-To: (Frank Schmitt's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2003 17:47:46 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50696 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50696 Frank Schmitt writes: > kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes: > >> Jesper Harder writes: >> >>> Just because you're using UTF-8, mac-roman, EBCDIC or whatever on >>> your local system doesn't mean that it's a good guess that you'll >>> receive mail and news using this charset. >> >> I think this guess is better than no guess at all. >> >> Do you have a better guess? > > I think somewhere in Gnus' code there's a list of Usenet hierarchies > with default charsets, IMO we should use this. Yup, isn't it used? For groups not in gnus-group-charset-alist, Gnus should ideally be more helpful than simply using the locale default. If Gnus can discover that the locale default cannot possibly be applicable to an article, it should try something else that might work.