Re: Gnus 5.10?

[Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>]

Reiner Steib <4uce.02.r.steib@gmx.net> writes:

> On Sat, Jan 04 2003, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
>> Only one of those was mentioned in GNUS-NEWS...  I tried to add
>> them.
>
> Is there a command to view the GNUS-NEWS file?  Maybe it should be
> added (plus a menu entry), cf. `C-h n' (view-emacs-news) in Emacs.

Doesn't GNUS-NEWS become part of C-h n once released?  I dunno.

>> Here is the current NEWS file for Oort -- is it really complete?
>
> - `gnus-group-parameters' should be mentioned

Wasn't that part of 5.9.0 too?

> - Integration of message-utils.el (Change subject, stripping "(was:
>   ...)", announced cross-post, ...)

** Features from third party message-utils.el added to message.el.

Message now asks if you wish to remove "(was: <old subject>)" from
subject lines (see `message-subject-trailing-was-query').  C-c M-m and
C-c M-f inserts markers indicating included text.  C-c C-f a adds a
X-No-Archive: header.  Improved crosspost follow behaviour with
`message-cross-post-*'.

>> On composing messages, it is enabled by `use-hard-newlines'.  Decoding
>> format=flowed was present but not documented in earlier versions.
>
> Index search on "flowed" in Gnus and Message manuals gives no results.

Try the Emacs MIME manual. :-)

>> ** Gnus supports PGP (RFC 1991/2440), PGP/MIME (RFC 2015/3156) and
>> ** S/MIME (RFC 2630-2633).
>> It needs an external S/MIME and OpenPGP implementation, but no additional
>> lisp libraries.
>
> Is the documentation in the Gnus manual (not the PGG manual!) up to
> date?  E.g. ...
>
> - <info://gnus/Signing+and+encrypting>
>
> - <info://gnus/Security> Probably not: "[...] you have to install
>   mailcrypt or gpg.el [...]"

I think I fixed these now, thanks.

> Do the menu entries (in the "Attachments" menu) use the new PGG
> functions?

PGG is only used indirectly by Gnus via MML, but yes, if MML is
configured to use PGG the Attachments menu will use PGG.

> IMHO, it would be nice to have separate "Attachments" and "Security"
> menus.

I think it was separate from the beginning, but it became really
short.  I think the current Attachments menu is rather good except for
the name, but I can't think of a better name.  (Several entries do not
really have anything to do with Attachments..)

> But I guess then we would have to drop some of the standard Emacs
> menus (e.g. "Options" and "Tools"), like w3 or w3m do.  BTW, the
> menu "Gnus" in the Summary buffer should also be split.
>
> Suggestion:
>
> - Message buffer:
>
>   File|Buffers|Edit|Field|Message|Attachment|Security|[Emacs]|Help
>
>   "Field" may be renamed to "Headers".
>
>   [Emacs]/[Gnus] would toggle display of Emacs/Gnus menu, as in w3.
>
> - Summary buffer:
>
>   File|Buffers|Gnus|Group|Post|Thread|Article|Score|[Emacs]|Help
>
>   Marking, limiting, ... should be moved from "Gnus" to the new
>   "Group" menu.
>
>   [Emacs]/[Gnus] would toggle display of Emacs/Gnus menu, as in w3.
>
> Opinions?

Hmm, yes.  I don't think we should add more menus though, even today I
have to resize my emacs window to see all menus.  Perhaps if the W3
approach is used.