From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/49152 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus 5.10? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:09:30 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <848yy2azri.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1042477879 17358 80.91.224.249 (13 Jan 2003 17:11:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 17:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Y86e-0004R7-00 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:10:36 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18Y85v-00060q-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:09:51 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:10:47 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01835 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 11:10:33 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0DH9URr003022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:09:31 +0100 Original-To: ding@hpc.uh.edu Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.1 0:030113:ding@hpc.uh.edu:781c94e7fecdbb68 X-Hashcash: 0:030113:ding@hpc.uh.edu:781c94e7fecdbb68 In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:40:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090011 (Oort Gnus v0.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49152 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:49152 Reiner Steib <4uce.02.r.steib@gmx.net> writes: > On Sat, Jan 04 2003, Simon Josefsson wrote: > >> Only one of those was mentioned in GNUS-NEWS... I tried to add >> them. > > Is there a command to view the GNUS-NEWS file? Maybe it should be > added (plus a menu entry), cf. `C-h n' (view-emacs-news) in Emacs. Doesn't GNUS-NEWS become part of C-h n once released? I dunno. >> Here is the current NEWS file for Oort -- is it really complete? > > - `gnus-group-parameters' should be mentioned Wasn't that part of 5.9.0 too? > - Integration of message-utils.el (Change subject, stripping "(was: > ...)", announced cross-post, ...) ** Features from third party message-utils.el added to message.el. Message now asks if you wish to remove "(was: )" from subject lines (see `message-subject-trailing-was-query'). C-c M-m and C-c M-f inserts markers indicating included text. C-c C-f a adds a X-No-Archive: header. Improved crosspost follow behaviour with `message-cross-post-*'. >> On composing messages, it is enabled by `use-hard-newlines'. Decoding >> format=flowed was present but not documented in earlier versions. > > Index search on "flowed" in Gnus and Message manuals gives no results. Try the Emacs MIME manual. :-) >> ** Gnus supports PGP (RFC 1991/2440), PGP/MIME (RFC 2015/3156) and >> ** S/MIME (RFC 2630-2633). >> It needs an external S/MIME and OpenPGP implementation, but no additional >> lisp libraries. > > Is the documentation in the Gnus manual (not the PGG manual!) up to > date? E.g. ... > > - > > - Probably not: "[...] you have to install > mailcrypt or gpg.el [...]" I think I fixed these now, thanks. > Do the menu entries (in the "Attachments" menu) use the new PGG > functions? PGG is only used indirectly by Gnus via MML, but yes, if MML is configured to use PGG the Attachments menu will use PGG. > IMHO, it would be nice to have separate "Attachments" and "Security" > menus. I think it was separate from the beginning, but it became really short. I think the current Attachments menu is rather good except for the name, but I can't think of a better name. (Several entries do not really have anything to do with Attachments..) > But I guess then we would have to drop some of the standard Emacs > menus (e.g. "Options" and "Tools"), like w3 or w3m do. BTW, the > menu "Gnus" in the Summary buffer should also be split. > > Suggestion: > > - Message buffer: > > File|Buffers|Edit|Field|Message|Attachment|Security|[Emacs]|Help > > "Field" may be renamed to "Headers". > > [Emacs]/[Gnus] would toggle display of Emacs/Gnus menu, as in w3. > > - Summary buffer: > > File|Buffers|Gnus|Group|Post|Thread|Article|Score|[Emacs]|Help > > Marking, limiting, ... should be moved from "Gnus" to the new > "Group" menu. > > [Emacs]/[Gnus] would toggle display of Emacs/Gnus menu, as in w3. > > Opinions? Hmm, yes. I don't think we should add more menus though, even today I have to resize my emacs window to see all menus. Perhaps if the W3 approach is used.