From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40960 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: can back end keep track of *all* group info? Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:51:01 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176434 3695 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:00:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 27528 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2001 22:58:54 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 22:58:54 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16IdyV-0001rc-00; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:53:39 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:53:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07081 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 16:53:06 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 27458 invoked by alias); 24 Dec 2001 22:52:59 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27453 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2001 22:52:59 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 24 Dec 2001 22:52:59 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fBOMr03O027237; Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:53:02 +0100 Original-To: Paul Grayson In-Reply-To: (Paul Grayson's message of "24 Dec 2001 12:57:12 -0600") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40960 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40960 Paul Grayson writes: > Okay, I think that I'm starting to see what I need to do to trick gnus > into working correctly with my server. M-g now updates my groups > quite well. However, 'g' still displays only the groups with ticked > articles, and never thinks any groups have unread articles. If so, does your `nnchoke-retrieve-groups' really return correct information? Guns certainly should notice new unread articles. > Is there an easy way to replace whatever 'g' uses currently with the > M-g update? I'd like it to only display the groups that have new > messages, and I want 'n' at the end of one group to jump correctly to > the next unread group, so changing %y (as Kai proposed) isn't going to > be good enough, right? > > Is the only difference between M-g and whatever 'g' does to each group > that -request-group is called with the 'dont-check' option in the > latter? Replacing `g' with `M-g' stuff becomes slow for most backends, so this isn't a good solution. Ideally the `g' stuff should use additional information from backends which are able to provide it, for display in the *Group* buffer. `n' should work since Gnus over-estimates the number of unread articles, it never under-estimates them. Maybe this is related to the problem above.