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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: (provide 'nnmaildir)
Date: 18 Jul 2000 18:34:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilun1jftn0w.fsf@barbar.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Steve Harris's message of "18 Jul 2000 08:34:42 -0700"

Steve Harris <sharris@primus.com> writes:

> > It might translate back and forth between Gnus-article# and
> > IMAP-article# but that would be really slow, and the whole point of
> > having state in the server is lost.
> 
> Simon,
> 
> Having seen your reiteration above, do you have any answers to my
> question of what needs to change in Gnus to support _proper_ operation
> of nnimap with maildir-inspired IDs? Is it even possible?

The maildir ID situation doesn't apply -- we don't get to assign
article numbers like nnmaildir can.  (If I'm wrong about this, please
describe how it would work, I can't see it.)

There are at least four solutions to the large-UIDs-from-IMAP-server
problem (I'm not saying they are good or realistic):

. Make elisp integers hold at least 32 bit integers and re-write
  gnus-range.el in C to make it fast.

. Implement the translation back and forth between gnus-article number
  and imap-article number, within nnimap.

        This is ``hairy''.  Remember -- the IMAP library uses elisp
        integers when dealing with articles so you'd basicly have to
        implement a (efficient) bignum-implementation and make it work
        within the IMAP parser.  When this is done you'd need, in
        nnimap, somehow convert the 1..2^32 range into the 1..2^28
        range, with the properties of starting at a low value and
        being monotonously increasing and contigious, that Gnus can
        handle.

. make Gnus accept non-integer article references.

        This might be a good thing anyway (think of using URLs to
        reference articles), but you'd still need to do most of the
        work in the previous point though.

. change/modify your server.

Since nnmaildir seem to be coming, it might be a more realistic
solution for you.




  reply	other threads:[~2000-07-18 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-07-14 23:10 Paul Jarc
2000-07-14 23:47 ` Steve Harris
2000-07-15  0:56   ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-16  1:14     ` Steve Harris
2000-07-16 12:44       ` Simon Josefsson
2000-07-17  2:43         ` Steve Harris
2000-07-17 18:28           ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-18  9:04             ` Kai Großjohann
2000-07-18 10:16             ` Simon Josefsson
2000-07-18 15:34               ` Steve Harris
2000-07-18 16:34                 ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2000-07-18 16:48                   ` Kai Großjohann
2000-07-19 15:36                   ` Steve Harris
2000-07-20 14:19                     ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-24 20:10                       ` Paul Jarc
     [not found]                         ` <vafittodfig.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
2000-07-31 16:42                           ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-01 16:03                             ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-02 14:51                               ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-03 14:58                                 ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-04 15:44                                   ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-07 22:35                                     ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-11 15:01                                     ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-11 21:07                                       ` Kai Großjohann
2000-08-11 21:34                                         ` Paul Jarc
2000-08-13 16:08                                           ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-04  3:51                                       ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-04  4:20                                         ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-04  8:26                                         ` Simon Josefsson
2000-09-05 18:49                                           ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-21 17:30                                         ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-21 21:30                                           ` Kai Großjohann
2000-09-21 22:43                                             ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-15  0:15 ` Simon Josefsson
2000-07-15  0:51   ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-15  1:21     ` Simon Josefsson
2000-07-15  1:24     ` Russ Allbery
2000-07-15 11:45     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-07-15 13:12       ` Simon Josefsson
2000-07-15 11:43 ` Kai Großjohann
2000-07-16 21:34   ` Paul Jarc
2000-07-16 21:47     ` Kai Großjohann
2000-07-17 18:17       ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-28 16:05 ` Paul Jarc
2000-09-28 18:46   ` Paul Jarc
2000-10-04 18:06 ` Paul Jarc
2000-10-04 18:21   ` Paul Jarc
2000-10-04 19:31     ` Simon Josefsson
2000-10-04 19:34       ` Paul Jarc
2000-10-04 19:52         ` Simon Josefsson
2000-10-04 20:32           ` Paul Jarc
2000-10-05  8:57             ` Simon Josefsson
2001-04-11 16:10 ` Paul Jarc
2001-04-15  3:57 ` Paul Jarc
2001-04-17  0:55 ` Paul Jarc
2001-04-24 15:11 ` Paul Jarc
2001-04-25 13:42   ` Paul Jarc

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