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* windows-1252 not displayed properly?
@ 2003-09-01 20:21 Matthias Andree
  2003-09-01 20:43 ` Marcus Frings
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From: Matthias Andree @ 2003-09-01 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)


This article:

Newsgroups: de.comm.software.mailserver
Message-ID: <3F534BB1.7070400@com-gate.com>

contains Windows-1252. What do I need to do to get my CVS Gnus in Emacs
21.3.1 display the \200 aka € characters properly?

TIA,

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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-01 20:21 windows-1252 not displayed properly? Matthias Andree
@ 2003-09-01 20:43 ` Marcus Frings
  2003-09-03 14:12   ` Matthias Andree
  2003-09-02  7:08 ` Vasily Korytov
  2003-09-02  7:42 ` Simon Josefsson
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Marcus Frings @ 2003-09-01 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


* Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:

> This article:
> Newsgroups: de.comm.software.mailserver
> Message-ID: <3F534BB1.7070400@com-gate.com>

> contains Windows-1252. What do I need to do to get my CVS Gnus in Emacs
> 21.3.1 display the \200 aka € characters properly?

This works for me (this posting should use UTF-8 to display the
following characters properly):

,----
| ;; Repariert mit `W d' im Summary Buffer falsch deklarierte Zeichen
| ;; siehe Tabelle: <http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/sbcs/1252.htm>
| (setq gnus-article-dumbquotes-map
|       '(("\200" "€")
| 	("\202" "‚")
| 	("\203" "ƒ")
| 	("\204" "„")
| 	("\205" "…")
| 	("\206" "†")
| 	("\207" "‡")
| 	("\210" "ˆ")
| 	("\211" "‰")
| 	("\212" "Š")
| 	("\213" "‹")
| 	("\214" "Œ")
| 	("\216" "Ž")
| 	("\221" "‘")
| 	("\222" "’")
| 	("\223" "“")
| 	("\224" "”")
| 	("\225" "•")
| 	("\226" "–")
| 	("\227" "—")
| 	("\230" "˜")
| 	("\231" "™")
| 	("\232" "š")
| 	("\233" "›")
| 	("\234" "œ")
| 	("\236" "ž")
| 	("\237" "Ÿ")))
`----

Regards,
Marcus
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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-01 20:21 windows-1252 not displayed properly? Matthias Andree
  2003-09-01 20:43 ` Marcus Frings
@ 2003-09-02  7:08 ` Vasily Korytov
  2003-09-02  7:42 ` Simon Josefsson
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Vasily Korytov @ 2003-09-02  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)


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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 22:21:26 +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:

> This article:
>
> Newsgroups: de.comm.software.mailserver
> Message-ID: <3F534BB1.7070400@com-gate.com>
>
> contains Windows-1252. What do I need to do to get my CVS Gnus in Emacs
> 21.3.1 display the \200 aka € characters properly?

I'm not sure, if the euro sign is in cp1252, but try:

(unless (coding-system-p 'cp1252)
  (codepage-setup 1252))
(unless (coding-system-p 'windows-1252)
  (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252))

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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-01 20:21 windows-1252 not displayed properly? Matthias Andree
  2003-09-01 20:43 ` Marcus Frings
  2003-09-02  7:08 ` Vasily Korytov
@ 2003-09-02  7:42 ` Simon Josefsson
  2003-09-02  8:28   ` Jochen Küpper
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2003-09-02  7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ding

Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> This article:
>
> Newsgroups: de.comm.software.mailserver
> Message-ID: <3F534BB1.7070400@com-gate.com>
>
> contains Windows-1252. What do I need to do to get my CVS Gnus in Emacs
> 21.3.1 display the \200 aka € characters properly?

Try

     (codepage-setup 1252)
     (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252)

or press W d (gnus-article-treat-dumbquotes)?

(Why isn't that codepage set up by default in Emacs, btw?  Performance
reasons?)




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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-02  7:42 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2003-09-02  8:28   ` Jochen Küpper
  2003-09-02  9:34     ` Reiner Steib
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Jochen Küpper @ 2003-09-02  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:42:22 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote:

Simon> (codepage-setup 1252)
Simon> (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252)

On GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, X toolkit), Gnus v5.10.3 I get
the follwoing backtrace when evaluating the first command. Is this new
in 21.3 or so?

,----[*Backtrace*]
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Unsupported codepage cp1252")
|   signal(error ("Unsupported codepage cp1252"))
|   error("Unsupported codepage %s" "cp1252")
|   cp-charset-for-codepage("cp1252")
|   codepage-setup(1252)
|   eval((codepage-setup 1252))
|   eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
|   eval-last-sexp(nil)
`----

Greetings,
Jochen
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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-02  8:28   ` Jochen Küpper
@ 2003-09-02  9:34     ` Reiner Steib
  2003-09-02 10:32       ` Matthias Andree
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Reiner Steib @ 2003-09-02  9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Tue, Sep 02 2003, Jochen Küpper wrote:

> On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:42:22 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
> Simon> (codepage-setup 1252)
> Simon> (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252)
>
> On GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, X toolkit), Gnus v5.10.3 I get
> the follwoing backtrace when evaluating the first command. Is this new
> in 21.3 or so?

It's new in CVS HEAD of Emacs (aka Emacs 21.3.50).

There are (at least) two possibilities to get `windows-1252' in Emacs
21.1-21.3, see
<URL:http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/gnus/rs-windows-1252.el>
and the comments therein.

Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-02  9:34     ` Reiner Steib
@ 2003-09-02 10:32       ` Matthias Andree
  2003-09-02 13:35         ` Simon Josefsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Andree @ 2003-09-02 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)


Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 02 2003, Jochen Küpper wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:42:22 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>
>> Simon> (codepage-setup 1252)
>> Simon> (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252)
>>
>> On GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, X toolkit), Gnus v5.10.3 I get
>> the follwoing backtrace when evaluating the first command. Is this new
>> in 21.3 or so?
>
> It's new in CVS HEAD of Emacs (aka Emacs 21.3.50).
>
> There are (at least) two possibilities to get `windows-1252' in Emacs
> 21.1-21.3, see
> <URL:http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/gnus/rs-windows-1252.el>
> and the comments therein.

I used the first successfully. Thanks a lot!

Simon, thanks for your offered help, but it didn't work with my emacs
21.3.1 version (it doesn't know cp1252, so it chokes during init).

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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-02 10:32       ` Matthias Andree
@ 2003-09-02 13:35         ` Simon Josefsson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2003-09-02 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ding

Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> writes:

> Reiner Steib <4.uce.03.r.s@nurfuerspam.de> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 02 2003, Jochen Küpper wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 09:42:22 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote:
>>>
>>> Simon> (codepage-setup 1252)
>>> Simon> (define-coding-system-alias 'windows-1252 'cp1252)
>>>
>>> On GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i686-pc-cygwin, X toolkit), Gnus v5.10.3 I get
>>> the follwoing backtrace when evaluating the first command. Is this new
>>> in 21.3 or so?
>>
>> It's new in CVS HEAD of Emacs (aka Emacs 21.3.50).
>>
>> There are (at least) two possibilities to get `windows-1252' in Emacs
>> 21.1-21.3, see
>> <URL:http://theotp1.physik.uni-ulm.de/~ste/comp/emacs/gnus/rs-windows-1252.el>
>> and the comments therein.
>
> I used the first successfully. Thanks a lot!
>
> Simon, thanks for your offered help, but it didn't work with my emacs
> 21.3.1 version (it doesn't know cp1252, so it chokes during init).

Sorry, I haven't used 21.3 for a while, so I forgot it didn't support
cp1252.




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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-01 20:43 ` Marcus Frings
@ 2003-09-03 14:12   ` Matthias Andree
  2003-09-04  9:15     ` Marcus Frings
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Matthias Andree @ 2003-09-03 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere@despammed.com> writes:

>> contains Windows-1252. What do I need to do to get my CVS Gnus in Emacs
>> 21.3.1 display the \200 aka € characters properly?
>
> This works for me (this posting should use UTF-8 to display the
> following characters properly):

This isn't a "dumb quote" as the character set is declared properly as
"Windows-1252", there's nothing that needs "fixing" (or amendment)
except either of Gnus or Emacs to display proper standards-conformant
articles, so Reiner's code path of adding Windows-1252 is the right way
to go. I am under the impression that "dumb quotes" are when someone
sends Windows-1252, declaring iso-8859-1.

Thank you anyways.

-- 
Matthias Andree

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* Re: windows-1252 not displayed properly?
  2003-09-03 14:12   ` Matthias Andree
@ 2003-09-04  9:15     ` Marcus Frings
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Marcus Frings @ 2003-09-04  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


* Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de> wrote:

> This isn't a "dumb quote" as the character set is declared properly as
> "Windows-1252", there's nothing that needs "fixing" (or amendment)
> except either of Gnus or Emacs to display proper standards-conformant
> articles, so Reiner's code path of adding Windows-1252 is the right way
> to go. I am under the impression that "dumb quotes" are when someone
> sends Windows-1252, declaring iso-8859-1.

Yes, of course you are right. Sorry for my misunderstanding.

Regards,
Marcus
-- 
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