From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53100 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: something decodes my headers... Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:13:50 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055326316 31619 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 10:11:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1644@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jun 11 12:11:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q2a8-0008Dj-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:11:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Q2cG-00026j-00; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:14:04 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Q2c8-00026b-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:13:56 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 29335 invoked by alias); 11 Jun 2003 10:13:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29330 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 10:13:55 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 10:13:55 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5BADoB4023688 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:13:51 +0200 Original-To: Jan Rychter Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030611:jan@rychter.com:4918564a27026d5d X-Hashcash: 0:030611:jan@rychter.com:4918564a27026d5d X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030611:ding@gnus.org:0aa51074cef11fed X-Hashcash: 0:030611:ding@gnus.org:0aa51074cef11fed In-Reply-To: (Jan Rychter's message of "Tue, 10 Jun 2003 21:53:45 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53100 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53100 Jan Rychter writes: >>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: > Simon> I think it might be a bug to invoke mail-extr on 8bit data. > Simon> Jan Rychter writes: > >> It is. It is really not designed to do that, and it only works for a > >> subset of ISO-8859-1. Actually, I have the distinct impression that > >> if we removed the 8859-1 support from mail-extr.el, the breakage > >> would be noticed by many more people. > > Simon> Yes. OTOH, I doubt the Right Thing wrt mail-extr is to patch > Simon> it. It should be rewritten. But if there is a short patch that > Simon> solve problems, I guess it doesn't hurt. Removing the > Simon> iso-8859-1 support is probably not a good thing in practice > Simon> though, even if I agree in theory. > > I fully agree, although I'd love to see a "testing period" with the > ISO-8859-1 support in mail-extr.el removed. Just so that people notice > the problems. Since mail-extr.el isn't part of Gnus, this is hard to do here. Maybe suggest it on emacs-devel? OTOH, I'm not sure what the result of the test period would be, it doesn't help if people just notice the problem, someone has to do something about it too, and they can do something about it without a test period, can't they? > No, the patch does not help. I do not mess with > gnus-extract-address-components, it is left at default. > > Also, the messages in my nnml spool definitely do not have 8bit > characters: > > From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Pawe=B3_lastnamesnipped?= > > So, it seems that something decodes the From: field. I guess I missed something...