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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
Cc: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: nnml/nnfolder marks faster
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:43:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ilupu8uynj0.fsf@barbar.josefsson.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lmjki4b5.fsf@uwo.ca> (Dan Christensen's message of "Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:42:38 -0400")

Dan Christensen <jdc+news@uwo.ca> writes:

> I have a few groups that have really large .mrk files, and this is
> causing slow performance.  I've noticed this more since the new
> .mrk code was introduced, and it is in particular noticeable when
> I *exit* a group with a large .mrk file.  But I don't know if the
> new .mrk code is causing any problems, or whether it just makes
> them more visible.

I guess the latter, I think the problem you mention existed earlier
(because the backend marks code hasn't touched that code).

> As an example, my nnfolder:debian.big group has about 1000 articles
> in it, and the .mrk file is somehow using about 840 bytes per article,
> which seems really excessive:

Yes, too much.

> Here are a few excerpts from the .mrk file which look suspicious:
>
> There are screenfuls and screenfuls of "seen" marks that look like:
>
>   (184755 . 184758) (184759 . 184762)
>
> which should be merged into a single long list I would think.

That is probably better yes, but I don't know the seen mark, it seem
to be handled specially somehow.  Lars?

> Also, the score caching has stuff like:
>
>   (score (185776 . -1) (185820 . -1) (185962 . -1) (185831 . -1)
>   (185991 . -1)
>
> which isn't even stored in numerical order (how is lookup done??).  
> I also wonder if this could be stored in a collapsed form using ranges
>
>   (score ((12345 . 15000) . -1)    
>
> etc. (in cases where there are consecutive articles with the same
> score.)
>
> Hmm, looking further, it is the score entries that are taking up 99%
> of the .mrk file, and most of them don't correspond to articles that
> exist in the group!  Shouldn't score cache entries be removed when
> the article is deleted from the group (e.g. by the expiry mechanism)?
> I smell a bug.

I'm not sure score marks should be in the file at all.  Isn't the
scores calculated each time you enter the group?  Maybe the score is
cached in .newsrc/.mark?

Likewise, `downloaded', `cache' and `unsent' should probably never be
propagated to the backend.



  reply	other threads:[~2001-09-14 13:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-08 19:38 Simon Josefsson
2001-09-12 19:42 ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-14 13:43   ` Simon Josefsson [this message]
2001-09-14 14:51     ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-14 17:32       ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-14 18:08         ` Paul Jarc
2001-12-30  3:52           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-12-31 10:02             ` Paul Jarc
2001-12-31 10:07               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-12-31 10:28                 ` Paul Jarc
2001-12-31 10:34                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-12-31 10:56                     ` Paul Jarc
2001-12-31 10:59                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2001-12-31 11:20                         ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-14 18:11     ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-14 18:23       ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-20 18:38         ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-21 15:00           ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-21 16:23             ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-22 15:29               ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-22 16:53                 ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-22 21:19                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-22 22:50                     ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-23  6:17                       ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-23 10:13                         ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-23 15:13                           ` Harry Putnam
2001-09-23 16:56                             ` Nevin Kapur
2001-09-23 20:46                               ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-23 20:39                             ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-23 22:50                             ` Kai Großjohann
2001-09-25  3:25                           ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-25 10:04                             ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-25 15:45                               ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-25 16:53                                 ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-25 17:08                                   ` Paul Jarc
2001-09-24 17:03                   ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-24 17:40                     ` Simon Josefsson
2001-09-25  2:28                       ` Dan Christensen
2001-09-25 17:19                         ` Simon Josefsson

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