Help With Select Method

Help With Select Method

[Jake Colman]

The formal way to configure select methods is to use gnus-select-method to
point to a news server and gnus-secondary-select-methods to point to ther
sources such as an IMAP server?

My company recently stopped providing access to a news server.  My current
configuration, given what I understand as stated above, is as follows:

(setq gnus-select-method 
      '(nntp "dummy"
             (nntp-address "foo.bar.com")
             )
      )

(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods 
      '(
        (nnimap "hamilton"
                (nnimap-list-pattern "*")
                (nnimap-expunge-on-close always)
                )
        ))

Is there a better way to do this?  How can I configure things if I want my
primary to be an IMAP server and to not have a news server?

-- 
Jake Colman                     

Principia Partners LLC                    Phone: (201) 209-2467
Harborside Financial Center                 Fax: (201) 946-0320
902 Plaza Two                          E-mail: colman@ppllc.com
Jersey City, NJ 07311                 www.principiapartners.com

Re: Help With Select Method

[Danny Siu]

nnnil is your friend.  I run gnus just for mail these days.

(setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

-- 
Danny Dick-Fung Siu              mailto:dsiu@adobe.com
Advanced Technology Group @ Adobe Systems Incorporated


Jake Colman writes:

  Jake> The formal way to configure select methods is to use
  Jake> gnus-select-method to point to a news server and
  Jake> gnus-secondary-select-methods to point to ther sources such as an
  Jake> IMAP server?

  Jake> My company recently stopped providing access to a news server.  My
  Jake> current configuration, given what I understand as stated above, is
  Jake> as follows:

  Jake> (setq gnus-select-method
  Jake>       '(nntp "dummy"
  Jake>              (nntp-address "foo.bar.com") )
  Jake>       )

  Jake> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
  Jake>       '(
  Jake>         (nnimap "hamilton"
  Jake>                 (nnimap-list-pattern "*") (nnimap-expunge-on-close
  Jake>                 always) )
  Jake>         ))

  Jake> Is there a better way to do this?  How can I configure things if I
  Jake> want my primary to be an IMAP server and to not have a news server?

  Jake> -- Jake Colman

  Jake> Principia Partners LLC Phone: (201) 209-2467 Harborside Financial
  Jake> Center Fax: (201) 946-0320 902 Plaza Two E-mail: colman@ppllc.com
  Jake> Jersey City, NJ 07311 www.principiapartners.com

Re: Help With Select Method

[David Hanak]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Jake Colman wrote:

> Is there a better way to do this?  How can I configure things if I want my
> primary to be an IMAP server and to not have a news server?

It is not mandatory to have an nntp server declared as a primary select
method.  I, for one, have nnml as my primary select method, an nnmaildir as
my only secondary select method, and several nntp servers configured as
foreign servers (i.e., not appearing in .gnus, just added to the list of
servers).

So try:

(setq gnus-select-method 
        '(nnimap "hamilton"
                 (nnimap-list-pattern "*")
                 (nnimap-expunge-on-close always)
                 ))

It should work fine.

-- 
David Hanak
                                http://www.inf.bme.hu/~dhanak/index_en.html
Dept. of Computer Science and Information Theory          dhanak@inf.bme.hu
Budapest University of Technology and Economics        PGP key ID: 266BC45F

Re: Help With Select Method

[Simon Josefsson]

David Hanak <dhanak@inf.bme.hu> writes:

> On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Jake Colman wrote:
>
>> Is there a better way to do this?  How can I configure things if I want my
>> primary to be an IMAP server and to not have a news server?
>
> It is not mandatory to have an nntp server declared as a primary select
> method.  I, for one, have nnml as my primary select method, an nnmaildir as
> my only secondary select method, and several nntp servers configured as
> foreign servers (i.e., not appearing in .gnus, just added to the list of
> servers).
>
> So try:
>
> (setq gnus-select-method 
>         '(nnimap "hamilton"
>                  (nnimap-list-pattern "*")
>                  (nnimap-expunge-on-close always)
>                  ))
>
> It should work fine.

But don't forget to C-k all existing nnimap groups before the move,
otherwise there will be trouble.  Generally, I think it is better to
use a nnil primary server, and have all servers as secondary.

Re: Help With Select Method

[Ian Dobbie]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> But don't forget to C-k all existing nnimap groups before the move,
> otherwise there will be trouble.  Generally, I think it is better to
> use a nnil primary server, and have all servers as secondary.

Why is this? I have nnml as my primary method and nntp (which comes
through the firewall via an ssh tunnel) as foreign servers. Is there
anything I am missing out on by this config?

Ian

Re: Help With Select Method

[Simon Josefsson]

Ian Dobbie <ian.dobbie@nuigalway.ie> writes:

> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> But don't forget to C-k all existing nnimap groups before the move,
>> otherwise there will be trouble.  Generally, I think it is better to
>> use a nnil primary server, and have all servers as secondary.
>
> Why is this? I have nnml as my primary method and nntp (which comes
> through the firewall via an ssh tunnel) as foreign servers. Is there
> anything I am missing out on by this config?

There shouldn't be any problems, but you need to remember which server
is primary and which are secondary when specifying fully qualified
group names, and stuff.  If everything is on the secondary level, you
can forget about the differences, and always type nnfoo+bar:baz.

Re: Help With Select Method

[Christopher Tessone]

>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:


    Simon> But don't forget to C-k all existing nnimap groups before
    Simon> the move, otherwise there will be trouble.  Generally, I
    Simon> think it is better to use a nnil primary server, and have
    Simon> all servers as secondary.

How does one do this?  I tried putting '(nnil) as the primary select
method and was told it couldn't load the file nnil...

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
Christopher A. Tessone
Knox College, Galesburg, Illinois
BA Student, Russian and Mathematics
http://www.polyglut.net/

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Re: Help With Select Method

[Simon Josefsson]

Christopher Tessone <tessone@polyglut.net> writes:

>>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>
>     Simon> But don't forget to C-k all existing nnimap groups before
>     Simon> the move, otherwise there will be trouble.  Generally, I
>     Simon> think it is better to use a nnil primary server, and have
>     Simon> all servers as secondary.
>
> How does one do this?  I tried putting '(nnil) as the primary select
> method and was told it couldn't load the file nnil...

Hm, it seems it is called nnnil.  Sorry for the typo.  Perhaps you
also need a server name, I'm not sure.  E.g., '(nnnil "").

Re: Help With Select Method

[Josh Huber]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Hm, it seems it is called nnnil.  Sorry for the typo.  Perhaps you
> also need a server name, I'm not sure.  E.g., '(nnnil "").

This is what I use:

(setq gnus-select-method
      '(nnnil ""))

-- 
Josh Huber

Re: Help With Select Method

[Jake Colman]

>>>>> "SJ" == Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

   >> How does one do this?  I tried putting '(nnil) as the primary select
   >> method and was told it couldn't load the file nnil...

   SJ> Hm, it seems it is called nnnil.  Sorry for the typo.  Perhaps you
   SJ> also need a server name, I'm not sure.  E.g., '(nnnil "").

Nope.  This is all you need:

(setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

-- 
Jake Colman                     

Principia Partners LLC                    Phone: (201) 209-2467
Harborside Financial Center                 Fax: (201) 946-0320
902 Plaza Two                          E-mail: colman@ppllc.com
Jersey City, NJ 07311                 www.principiapartners.com

Re: Help With Select Method

[David Hanak]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Simon Josefsson wrote:

> Hm, it seems it is called nnnil.  Sorry for the typo.  Perhaps you
> also need a server name, I'm not sure.  E.g., '(nnnil "").

nnnil is not mentioned in the Gnus info files at all.  Hmm.  Shouldn't that
be fixed?

-- 
David Hanak
                                http://www.inf.bme.hu/~dhanak/index_en.html
Dept. of Computer Science and Information Theory          dhanak@inf.bme.hu
Budapest University of Technology and Economics        PGP key ID: 266BC45F

Re: Help With Select Method

[Simon Josefsson]

David Hanak <dhanak@inf.bme.hu> writes:

> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>
>> Hm, it seems it is called nnnil.  Sorry for the typo.  Perhaps you
>> also need a server name, I'm not sure.  E.g., '(nnnil "").
>
> nnnil is not mentioned in the Gnus info files at all.  Hmm.  Shouldn't that
> be fixed?

Definitely!  Any takers?