From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53314 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: format=flowed flawed? Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:33:57 +0200 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1057178058 9487 80.91.224.249 (2 Jul 2003 20:34:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 20:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1858@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Jul 02 22:34:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19XoIt-0002SM-00 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 22:34:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19XoJF-0003CQ-00; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:34:33 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19XoJB-0003CL-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 02 Jul 2003 15:34:29 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 6689 invoked by alias); 2 Jul 2003 20:34:29 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6684 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2003 20:34:28 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 2 Jul 2003 20:34:28 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h62KXvST011201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK); Wed, 2 Jul 2003 22:33:58 +0200 Original-To: Matthias Andree Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030702:ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de:7f751bfd7dbca454 X-Hashcash: 0:030702:ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de:7f751bfd7dbca454 X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030702:ding@gnus.org:36f9c2ea7997eda5 X-Hashcash: 0:030702:ding@gnus.org:36f9c2ea7997eda5 In-Reply-To: (Matthias Andree's message of "Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:11:42 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1003 (Gnus v5.10.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53314 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53314 Matthias Andree writes: > This is what a body section looks like in Tin: > >>>meldet er sich dort in eienr normalen Session zuerst mit dem 'Helo' an, >>>es folgt die Antowrt des Servers ('250-...'), danach kommt ein 'Mail >>>From: rolandwolters@web.de' und ein 'Rcpt To: soundos@xyz.de'. >> >> Wenn das so kommt, sind Mailclient und Mailservern kaputt. >> >> 1. die spitzen Klammern in MAIL FROM und RCPT TO fehlen; und:SPC >>SPC >> 2. HELO darf keine mehrzeiligen Antworten der Art 250- nach sich ziehen To illustrate the encoding, I have added trailing SPC on the last three lines, when they end with SPC. As you can see the first and the second of the three last lines end with SPC. This indicate they should be flowed together. Looking at the parent message, I see it is not flowed. So I think the problem is that Roland Wolters's MUA (Mozilla 5.0) incorrectly flows non-flowed quoted text. If a message isn't flowed, you shouldn't put trailing SPC on those lines when composing a flowed followup. > Besides that, it seems (for a while now) that ^, AR and AT are totally > hosed, and C-u 50 M-g also behaves in a different way from q C-u 50 RET. I see the first trouble too. > I suffered from .newsrc.eld corruption a while back, but can this be the > root of this AR/AT problem? I get all sorts of errors "This is a > pseudo-article" or when pressing AT, I see the root of the thread I'm > looking at, but all leaves in the thread that were visible before disappear. I don't get any pseudo articles, I just simply doesn't get a parent, even when there is one.