From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46179 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus changes in Emacs-Unicode branch Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:34:18 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029767657 5348 127.0.0.1 (19 Aug 2002 14:34:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17gnbj-0001Nt-00 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:34:15 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17gncC-0000Qj-00; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:35:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA22957 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 20446 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 2002 14:34:26 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20441 invoked from network); 19 Aug 2002 14:34:26 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by gnus.org with SMTP; 19 Aug 2002 14:34:26 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7JEYIi2021641; Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:34:18 +0200 Original-To: Dave Love Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:020819:d.love@dl.ac.uk:55a0235f5c6b1c6b X-Hashcash: 0:020819:ding@gnus.org:4e97e070e889a32f In-Reply-To: (Dave Love's message of "19 Aug 2002 13:30:45 +0100") Original-Lines: 29 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46179 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46179 Dave Love writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> > I don't know what that means, but I _hope_ it has nothing to do with >> > the Emacs internal encoding. >> >> It shouldn't, but I haven't verified it. > > Then I don't understand the issue. [Why is something utf-8 specific > anyhow? There shouldn't be anything special abut utf-8, which has > been a problem with Gnus code before.] USEFOR says to use UTF-8, so Gnus tries to decode group names as UTF-8. Configurable depending on hierarchy and method, of course. If the way Gnus achieves this depends on the internal Emacs encoding, I couldn't tell. >> > [This applies to Emacs. As far as I can tell, XEmacs Mule lacks the >> > necessary machinery to do things properly.] >> >> It shouldn't be worse than it is today, > > I don't understand. I'm talking about today (or maybe yesterday -- > Debian Woody). Err, OK, I thought this was related to the Emacs Unicode branch only. If the patch is against Oort and todays' (X)Emacs, and FWIW, I'd vote for simply installing it.