From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39099 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnml-open-marks bug? Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 18:51:01 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87pu88k8hh.fsf@yahoo.com> <8766a05tpf.fsf@yahoo.com> <87u1xjkjyp.fsf@www.emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174861 26075 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:34:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 18444 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 16:51:52 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 16:51:52 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15oSlI-0001Jh-00; Tue, 02 Oct 2001 11:51:16 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 02 Oct 2001 11:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25183 for ; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:50:44 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 18418 invoked by alias); 2 Oct 2001 16:51:00 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 18413 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2001 16:51:00 -0000 Original-Received: from dolk.extundo.com (195.42.214.242) by gnus.org with SMTP; 2 Oct 2001 16:51:00 -0000 Original-Received: from barbar.josefsson.org (slipsten.extundo.com [195.42.214.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by dolk.extundo.com (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id f92Gov0r020292; Tue, 2 Oct 2001 18:50:57 +0200 Original-To: Alex Schroeder In-Reply-To: <87u1xjkjyp.fsf@www.emacswiki.org> (Alex Schroeder's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2001 01:40:30 +0200") Mail-Copies-To: nobody Original-Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39099 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39099 Alex Schroeder writes: >>> Hm, the error seems to be this: I used to require gnus-msg. This no >>> longer works. >>> >>> (when (not (featurep 'xemacs)) >>> (require 'gnus-msg) >>> (load-file "~/.gnus")) >>> >>> All I need to do is require 'gnus instead. >>> >>> What I *wanted* to do is prevent Gnus from being loaded unless I >>> actually want to read news or write mail. Is there another solution >>> around? If not, no problem. After all, the less I restart Emacs the >>> better. >> >> If you don't want to read news or write mail, Gnus shouldn't be >> loaded, I think. What is loading it? > > Sorry, my mistake. When I hit C-x m I want to use message mode and > posting styles (at least I think it was the posting styles that > required a bit of Gnus loaded). That's why I required 'gnus-msg in my > .emacs. Using M-x gnus, M-x gnus-no-server etc. was never a problem. Please remove the require and report the backtrace you get, I think the proper autoloads etc should be installed so that C-x m with Gnus works by default, including stuff like posting styles. > Recently, though, M-x gnus would no longer work. Only when I changed > my require 'gnus-msg into a require 'gnus was I again able to use M-x > gnus, M-x gnus-no-server etc. without a problem. That is probably also a bug that should be solved, what is the backtrace you get if you don't put the workaround in your .emacs?