From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55634 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: FLIM files Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:30:26 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1073266257 21975 80.91.224.253 (5 Jan 2004 01:30:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:30:57 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M4174@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jan 05 02:30:53 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AdJa1-00039H-00 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:30:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AdJZw-00082K-00; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 19:30:48 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AdJZr-00081z-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 Jan 2004 19:30:43 -0600 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232183A003E for ; Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:30:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i051UbAU011454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Jan 2004 02:30:40 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:040105:ding@gnus.org:c9ae8485d0c6db63 In-Reply-To: (Jesper Harder's message of "Mon, 05 Jan 2004 02:00:25 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55634 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55634 Jesper Harder writes: > "Simon Josefsson" writes: > >> + * sasl.el, sasl-cram.el, sasl-digest.el, hmac-md5.el, hmac-def.el: >> + New files. >> >> +;;; hmac-def.el --- A macro for defining HMAC functions. >> + >> +;; Copyright (C) 1999, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >> + >> +;; Author: Shuhei KOBAYASHI >> +;; Keywords: HMAC, RFC 2104 >> + >> +;; This file is part of FLIM (Faithful Library about Internet Message). > > Some general question about files from FLIM: Good questions. I don't really know the answer, here's just my opinion: > * Should the versions in Gnus be considered a fork? Should changes in > Gnus CVS be passed upstream to the FLIM maintainers (I don't think > we have done that for some of the existing files derived from FLIM). Yes, ideally. For PGG, I recall CC'ing the PGG authors on some patches initially, but I'm not sure anyone read them or did anything with the patches, so I stopped. Maybe we could submit all modifications between FLIM and Gnus 5.10? Perhaps better to ask first. Any FLIM people reading this list? As for the SASL package, when I worked on getting copyright assignments signed for it, I said the reason was to be able to include the files in Gnus. Renaming or forking wasn't discussed then. > * If it _is_ a fork, wouldn't it be wise to rename the files to > different names to reduce the risk of clashes? I dunno. The best would be to have Gnus nurse the files into Emacs proper, and accepting patches from the FLIM team as we proceed, and possibly also send patches to the FLIM team if they are interested. I.e., make Emacs the canonical location for the files, and the Gnus and FLIM teams maintain their own more frequently modified copies.