From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/55393 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: automatic Agentizing of servers (was: Summary buffer Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:30:00 +0100 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <4nn0aleo5u.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <4nd6bhhf0j.fsf@lockgroove.bwh.harvard.edu> <877k0fwc8i.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87y8sv2smn.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87u13jxmzg.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87isjy9ga0.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1072819821 28509 80.91.224.253 (30 Dec 2003 21:30:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M3933@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 30 22:30:18 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AbRRS-0008VJ-00 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:30:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AbRRJ-00008T-00; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:30:09 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1AbRRF-00008O-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:30:05 -0600 Original-Received: from yxa.extundo.com (178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net [217.13.230.178]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF0D3A0038 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:30:03 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBULU2AU001404 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:30:03 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Hashcash: 0:031230:ding@gnus.org:98cbafad0db3cec6 In-Reply-To: <87isjy9ga0.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:55:51 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1004 (Gnus v5.10.4) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55393 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:55393 Steinar Bang writes: >>>>>> Simon Josefsson : > >> Hm, maybe if we look at it from the reverse point of view: why don't >> you want the nntp/nnimap backends in the agent? > > The nnimap server that was auto-agentized resides on the same machine > as the Gnus in XEmacs process (ie. the machine I'm typing this on), > and I don't have disk space to cache the NNTP server (though a new > disk is in the mail). Ah! I understand, thanks for explaining. Do you think the default of enabling the agent as cache should be changed though? I suspect most users of nntp/nnimap access remote servers, most of which are slower than local disk, and have disk space to waste for caching header data, but I may be wrong. Disabling the behaviour is (now) only J r in the server buffer too, or customizing gnus-agent-auto-agentize-methods if ~/News/agents is removed periodically, which doesn't sound too burdensome to me. > I've also had problems seeing all articles in nnimap earlier, when I > was running against the same nnimap server from a remote site, and > using the agent for speedup. But from a different thread I read > yesterday, it looked like perhaps you have fixed this problem? Perhaps that was Kevin, I don't recall seeing or fixing anything similar.