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Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:

>>>>>> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann):
>
>> Maybe the conservatism comes from the thing being hard to understand
>> and not modularized as well as it could be...
>
> I really think it should be redesigned to become asynchronous.

IMHO using a framework like the URL package for backend communication
would be good.  Perhaps even extended further to be more thread
friendly.

Another good thing would be remove all uses of Gnus functions and Gnus
variables from backends, it would be a first step into making them
more modular.