From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/21686 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Ghost e-mail groups Date: 01 Mar 1999 20:35:47 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035159745 24236 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 00:22:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 00:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE, ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25779 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:40:34 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAB10946; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:39:02 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:40:22 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19798 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:13 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from faun.nada.kth.se (faun.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.80]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25755 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:39:57 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from jas@localhost) by faun.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA04831; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 20:35:47 +0100 (MET) Original-To: Shane Holder In-Reply-To: Shane Holder's message of "01 Mar 1999 13:15:35 -0600" Original-Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070079 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.79) Emacs/20.3.6 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21686 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:21686 Shane Holder writes: > It seems like a real difficult way to get a group that doesn't > really do anything. A user that is new to Gnus isn't going to > figure this out, and while I took a hiatus from Gnus I used gnus for > several years and don't recall having to do anything this intensive > to get a new group. I'm really not trying to be difficult on this, > but it does seem more difficult than it should. I agree. However, creating a new group/backend _is_ simple. What you really want to do here and what Kai suggested that you should do is to create a new backend that doesn't live in the same directory as one of your other backends. Having several backends in the same directory is a Bad Thing since they want exclusive ownership of a file called "active". It's just too bad all backends default to the same directory. It would be neat if nnml+foo defaulted to live in ~/Mail/nnml+foo, nnfolder+bar defaulted to ~/Mail/nnfolder+bar etc. Changing a default like this carry a huge price tag though, so I guess this isn't a practical solution...