From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/50979 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Josefsson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Drafts group loses special property Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:06:15 +0100 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87d6kjflsy.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <874r5vfjw4.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048352865 23559 80.91.224.249 (22 Mar 2003 17:07:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:07:45 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Sat Mar 22 18:07:41 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18wmSP-000649-00 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:06:57 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 18wmS6-0006on-00; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:06:38 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:07:41 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (sclp3.sclp.com [66.230.238.2]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA20415 for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 11:07:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 93617 invoked by alias); 22 Mar 2003 17:06:21 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 93612 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2003 17:06:20 -0000 Original-Received: from 178.230.13.217.in-addr.dgcsystems.net (HELO yxa.extundo.com) (217.13.230.178) by 66.230.238.6 with SMTP; 22 Mar 2003 17:06:20 -0000 Original-Received: from latte.josefsson.org (yxa.extundo.com [217.13.230.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by yxa.extundo.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2MH6FZG026258 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=OK) for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:06:16 +0100 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Payment: hashcash 1.2 0:030322:ding@gnus.org:d0f8713f6df8d94a X-Hashcash: 0:030322:ding@gnus.org:d0f8713f6df8d94a In-Reply-To: <874r5vfjw4.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> (Florian Weimer's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2003 17:25:47 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090017 (Oort Gnus v0.17) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50979 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:50979 Florian Weimer writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> Florian Weimer writes: >> >>> gnus-draft.el is not even loaded, and the group appears ss if it were >>> an ordinary mail group. >>> >>> How can I fix this? >> >> C-k and restart? G p on the group should include (gnus-dummy >> (gnus-draft-mode)). If you can reproduce how the group parameter is >> lost, it would be good. Seems like people see this from time to time. > > Thanks, C-k fixes it. I have no idea what has happened. It might be > an artifact remaining from a major confusion in which Gnus subscribed > all NNTP groups as nnml mail groups. 8-( > > Maybe we should apply the following documentation patch, although it > is a bit embarrassing? I tried to reword it to make it more general, so that the information in the manual is useful even when the bug has been fixed. Now added, thanks for suggesting it. Index: gnus.texi =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/cvsroot/gnus/texi/gnus.texi,v retrieving revision 6.450 diff -u -p -r6.450 gnus.texi --- gnus.texi 22 Mar 2003 00:52:52 -0000 6.450 +++ gnus.texi 22 Mar 2003 17:04:26 -0000 @@ -11561,7 +11561,13 @@ read---all articles in the group are per If the group doesn't exist, it will be created and you'll be subscribed to it. The only way to make it disappear from the Group buffer is to -unsubscribe it. +unsubscribe it. The special properties of the draft group comes from +a group property (@pxref{Group Parameters}), and if lost the group +behaves like any other group. This means the commands below will not +be available. To restore the special properties of the group, the +simplest way is to kill the group, using @kbd{C-k}, and restart +Gnus. The group is automatically created again with the +correct parameters. The content of the group is not lost. @c @findex gnus-dissociate-buffer-from-draft @c @kindex C-c M-d (Mail)